<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>@Barrack</div><div><br></div><div>It's the nature of the Beast (read marketplace). Out of this cacophony can we as a Nation emerge Stronger? If we think that all these companies (local & multinational alike) are in this game to just do 'good' then we need to be admitted to Mathare Mental Hospital to have our heads examined!</div><div><br></div><div>I like what Evans has done with the FOSS Movement in Kenya. We need more of those and I challenge the KICT Board to give as much (if it doesn't already) 'airtime' to this as it does the SAPs of this world. What we <b><u>MUST</u></b> however strive to do deliberately is move the conversation away from a winner take all mentality that we seem to be in and to a discussion of <b>execution</b>, <b>standards</b> and <b>service excellence</b>. If we do that then this debate between FOSS and Proprietary Software will be mute because in this brave new world we live in both have a place on the table and both have to talk to each other. All you need to do to understand and prosper in this world is look at Big Blue and see why they managed to turn around a company which everyone thought was road kill. IBM Global Services. For a peep of that please visit:-</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/igs/index.html">http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/igs/index.html</a><div><br></div><div>Can we create a homegrown company of this stature? (if not size?) </div><div><br></div><div>My good people, me thinks we are asking the wrong questions...or dwelling on the wrong issues. </div><div><br></div><div>My Pesa Nane..</div><div><div><br><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">+254 773/713 601113</span></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>@ Ali, the problem is that we have seen and participated in this kind</span><br><span>of initiatives sponsored by multinationals before but it seems we are</span><br><span>not making headway there is always a new one coming up, at the end the</span><br><span>multinationals make strides by getting Marketing and Publicity but</span><br><span>where does the country remain? we should read between the lines.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>:) Noted Evans. I shall try to loosen up abit :)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 773/713 601113</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Evans Ikua <<a href="mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com">ikua.evans@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali you need a sense of humour.. That was with a light touch.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Evans</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>That's below the belt.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think there's room for open and proprietary software. And besides these</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>services fees that will go to integration etc will be shared by both Germans</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>& Kenyans....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Can we agree that there's room for both schools of thought in this space?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>One thing for sure though. Whether you provide open or proprietary</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>software if you suck at providing services then it won't matter...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So can we focus on service excellence since we know that both open and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>proprietary software will have a role to play in our lives?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 773/713 601113</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPhone®</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Evans Ikua <<a href="mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com">ikua.evans@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Well, if I was German and SAP was German and the money would end up in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Germany, I would think the same way.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Honestly, guys - maybe it's because it's Friday and I'm a bit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>undersugared, but what's the issue here? SAP will train 100 underprivileged</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>students in what I can see are marketable technical skills that will give</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>them a good foundation for a career. Boo!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>100 out of, what - tens of thousands of kids? Hundreds of thousands of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kids? *Of course* this will not fix either youth employment or the state of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kenya's ICT industry over night. It also won't fix the fact that Rhapta Road</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>seems to be crumbling, but then again, it doesn't have to. Doesn't stop</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>anyone from pursuing any other initiatives in the areas everyone put</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>forward. Well done, SAP, I think!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 21 September 2012 12:37, Evans Ikua <<a href="mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com">ikua.evans@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mwendwa, this is where we have a disconnect. To build onto what you have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pointed out, the Government would do good to actively support the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>development of the capacity of local developers who can be able to extend</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and develop local or open source ERPs, and any other systems. My big</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>question here to Paul is, how much money do we lose in forex buying SAP and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>all the other software licenses annually, as a country? Can we get figures</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of how much a standard SAP implementation costs? How many are there in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>country? How much of that money stays in the country and how much goes to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Germany? Aren't we better off investing in our own developer skills so that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we can keep some of this money within the country (and maybe pay teachers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>better)?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The reason why rich countries stay rich is because they have positive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>balances of payments. A poor country like Kenya has a negative balance of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>payments. This basically tells us that we need to import as little as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>possible, and export as much as possible. Then vision 2030 becomes easier to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>achieve.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Countries like Malaysia, Brazil, UK and Germany have come to this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>realization. They know what is in their best business interest and so they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>actively support local developer capacities, as opposed to having software</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>engineers whose work is just to install packaged software from shiny discs.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Brain drain? When we have a situation like I have just mentioned above,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the really good developers will never have an incentive to stay in a country</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>where all they do is install software. They will soon emigrate to Germany</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(or Silicon Valley) where they can be employed by SAP to get involved in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>exciting world where they can actually do the development. With open source,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they would stay in Kenya and still get to develop exciting applications</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, lordmwesh <<a href="mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com">lordmwesh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is a great debate, but we should not trivialize what the ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>board is trying to do in helping build local SAP developers. Any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>movement forward is welcomed.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Although Great developers don't need any baby sitting, they will move</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and work with any platform may it be proprietary closed or Free open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>source.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The debate of what software an enterprise should use should be decided</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the investors, after analysing all risks involved.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>SAP has seen an opportunity to develop local talent, great.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Anybody who feels like me that local developers should also be taught</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to integrate Open source ERPs should sponsor them too. A lot of talk</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and no walk will not help anybody.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kudos KICTB, Any movement forward is welcomed.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40ratio-magazine.com">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40ratio-magazine.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Andrea Bohnstedt</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Publisher</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 720 960 322</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ratio-magazine.com">www.ratio-magazine.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Find/post East Africa careers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Find/post conferences, workshops, trainings, other business events</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Evans Ikua,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lanetconsulting.com">lanetconsulting.com</a>,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lpi-eastafrica.org">lpi-eastafrica.org</a>,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://ict-innovation.fossfa.net">ict-innovation.fossfa.net</a>,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Skype: @ikuae</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cell: +254-722-955831</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Evans Ikua,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lanetconsulting.com">lanetconsulting.com</a>,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lpi-eastafrica.org">lpi-eastafrica.org</a>,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://ict-innovation.fossfa.net">ict-innovation.fossfa.net</a>,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Skype: @ikuae</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cell: +254-722-955831</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Barrack O. Otieno</span><br><span>+254721325277</span><br><span>+254-20-2498789</span><br><span>Skype: barrack.otieno</span><br><span><a href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>