Muraya,<br><br>Its unfortunate the FOSS angle came into this debate, the real issue i tried to bring out was well addressed by Prof Waema and i think we should consider his thoughts where are our strategic priorities as a country and what are the relevant government arms doing about it? remember perception matters and whatever direction government takes becomes the standard for a country, if SAP decides to shift to Middle East where does it leave us as a country? this is the big picture i talked about its not about custom made and off the shelf there are business men around who have been doing that so its not a news pase (no pun intended) the real issue is the agenda being driven by government.<br>
<br>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM, S.M. Muraya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com" target="_blank">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In reality (the market not academia), most SME's would rather pirate QuickBooks than use FOSS.<div><br></div><div>If Quickbooks were FOSS and still maintained its quality (updates and support) it would still be in use - not because it is FOSS but because it serves its purpose well.<br>
<div><br></div><div>Whether software is free to modify or not is not the issue here. All software can be modified (that is what viruses do anyway).</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-secret-service-3040089481/" target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-opens-source-code-to-russian-secret-service-3040089481/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>FOSS is strongest at the Infrastructure (software foundation - OS, Web Server, Database) levels.</div><div><br></div><div>This is because many big firms (IBM, Oracle, Google etc) do not want to rely on or promote their competitors infrastructure software.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The kind of SME pursuing a SAP solution has already figured out FOSS is not the most reliable way for them to go.
</div><div><br></div><div>Anyone who brings FOSS into a discussion like this (about Business Software Applications) is too "Kernel"</div><div><br></div><div> :)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Mwololo Tim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:timwololo@gmail.com" target="_blank">timwololo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font size="4">Dear Paul,</font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">As much as this initiative is fine for now, there are issues. One is what are we doing (KICTB and others) to promote locally produced software? Promoting local software is likely to have more impact (jobs, contribution to GDP, etc.) and be more sustainable in the longer term.</font></div>
<div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">On a related matter, we saw the Minister of Finance removing duty on software the other day. <span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'">This
came at a time when Kenya had become recognized as an upcoming global source
of innovative software, especially mobile applications software. Given that
software development industry has been identified as one of the priority areas
for developing globally competitive technology-based products in the Science,
Technology and Innovation Policy (ST&I Policy, 2012), which was recently
approved by Cabinet, the Government needs to create a raft of incentives for
local software development.</span></font></div>
<div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Of course there are issues of other ERPs, including local versions.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">My 2 cents</font></div><div>
<font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Tim Waema</font></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 20 September 2012 20:32, Paul Kukubo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke" target="_blank">pkukubo@ict.go.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Areba<div><br></div><div>This project is about jobs. 100 Kenyans will develop skills that are imediately required by the market.</div>
<div>The installed base of SAP in Kenya is substantial from Nation Media Group, to Bidco, to many other large and medium sized business and some state corporations. This base is growing. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The ICT Board intends to extend these partnerships to drive high talent development. This is the first. There are many areas and many projects that don't have the requisite skills and there are even more Kenyans who don't have jobs. Many parents will not agree to pay for a child to certify further once he is out of college. Indeed many can't afford it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Skinning this cat of ICT job creation requires many knives. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div>Paul KUKUBO<div>CEO Kenya ICT Board<span></span><br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div><div><br>On Thursday, September 20, 2012, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wonder how this bodes with the recent discussion about the Government 's Intention to go Open Source..... <div>
<br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Paul Kukubo <span dir="ltr"><<a>pkukubo@ict.go.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:Times;line-height:normal"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">
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<img src="" style="width:123px;min-height:78px"><span style="line-height:21px;padding-left:36px"></span><span style="line-height:21px;padding-left:36px"></span><img src="" style="width:111px;min-height:58px"></p>
</div><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:1.2"><span style="line-height:16px;font-weight:bold;font-size:14px">Kenyan Government and SAP to expand skill set of local graduates</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:1.2"><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">Training aims at improving youth employability in the country’s robust ICT sector </span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">and</span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"> is</span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"> </span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">in</span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"></span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">line with vision</span><span style="line-height:14px;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"> 2030</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:1.2"><span style="line-height:21px"> </span></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">Nairobi 20</span><span style="line-height:8px;font-size:7px;vertical-align:super;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">th</span><span style="line-height:21px;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"> September, 2012…</span><span style="line-height:21px">The </span><span style="line-height:21px">government of Kenya through the Kenya ICT Board and SAP has</span><span style="line-height:21px"> today announced a partnership that will see 100 bright but underprivileged students</span><span style="line-height:21px">undergo training</span><span style="line-height:21px"> to become </span><span style="line-height:21px">certified SAP</span><span style="line-height:21px"> Software engineers.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px"></span><span style="line-height:21px">Dubbed </span><span style="line-height:21px">“SAP</span><span style="line-height:21px"> </span><span style="line-height:21px">Skills for </span><span style="line-height:21px">Africa”, the </span><span style="line-height:21px">Programme</span><span style="line-height:21px"> commits to deliver professional training and certification to Kenyan university graduates.</span><span style="line-height:21px"> The programme</span><span style="line-height:21px"> will seek to</span><span style="line-height:21px"> substantially improve the employability of young, bright </span><span style="line-height:21px">university</span><span style="line-height:21px"> graduates</span><span style="line-height:21px">and equally deliver on the</span><span style="line-height:21px"> government’s mandate to promote digital inclusion, to forge Kenya as an ICT hub for Africa and drive ICT skills development. </span><span style="line-height:21px"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px"><br></span></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px">“The</span><span style="line-height:21px"> SAP partnership is key in equipping our young professionals with high end ICT skills that are on demand in the Kenya and </span><span style="line-height:21px">the wider East African Market. This</span><span style="line-height:21px"> effort provides a</span><span style="line-height:21px">much needed skill</span><span style="line-height:21px">set for graduates who would otherwise not have had the privilege to be exposed </span><span style="line-height:21px">to this</span><span style="line-height:21px"> spe</span><span style="line-height:21px">cific set of world class skills",</span><span style="line-height:21px"> said Kenya ICT Board CEO, Paul Kukubo.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px"><br></span><span></span></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:21px"><span style="line-height:21px">The Kenya ICT Board and SAP are </span><span style="line-height:21px">in </span><span style="line-height:21px">partners</span><span style="line-height:21px">hip</span><span style="line-height:21px"> to deliver the latest skills and knowledge to the students.</span><span style="line-height:21px"> The </span><span style="line-height:21px">Kenya</span><span style="line-height:21px"> ICT</span><span style="line-height:21px"></span><span style="line-height:21px">Board will provide</span><span style="line-height:21px"> classrooms with </span></p>
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