<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">interesting...<br>
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I think Yawe has a point. PCK recovery strategy should revolve around
eCommerce rather than trying to pretend to be another Telco providing
(cheap) Wifi. The last time PCK tried this Telco move was, I recall,
was just before the 2002 elections (what a coincidence?)<br>
<br>
In 2001-2, they installed Satellite dishes (x4) in each of the 700
Post-office across the country in preparation to offer internet services
to the rural folks. And because bloggers are being hurled to courts in
recent times, I will avoid naming folks who legally made a killing from
this project that never quite took off. "Legally" because the won the
tenders to do the job and they did deliver the equipment. They legally
won the tender to Consult on the project as Lawyers, Financiers etc and
the delivered the services accordingly and so really you cannot blame
them. Infact recently there was a case in court where one of these
Lawyers won a case to be paid his balance...<br>
<br>
And now in as we approach 2013 elections - PCK is again making another
"Telco" attempt worth I dont know how many billions? Yawe - now you
know why you will never be the Post Master General. How can you when
you might fight against such lucrative Telco projects? Perhaps you
should remain just a Desktop activist/blogger :-)<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
nb: not sure if we have PCK staff are on the list but I think they
should convince us how this Wifi project will change PCK fortunes. And
since PCK is fully owned by the Public (unlike Safcom) we can as Edith
said and in the spirit of the new constitution, we can indeed demand
that they show us how they intend to use our money. Who knows, we may
after all be wrong and they may be right.<br><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 8/30/12, robert yawe <i><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...<br>To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 5:11 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1732802299"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Mwangi,<br><br>Ask PCK what is the volume of shipments they handle from Amazon and eBay then you will realise that you are one of very few people who still believe that they need to hold an item in their hands before buying. <br><br>Experience and recommendations is what gives the
belief that at a supermarket there is an assurance of quality yet for many years Nakumatt was believed to offer low quality products but when Uchumi faltered and people who would never be seen dead in Nakumatt tried the chain and many got hooked and never left.<br><br>I will repeat what I have said before, Nairobi is not Kenya, just because we have a choice of which supermarket to shop at does not make it a national norm or a basic human right. Note my mention of the cost of a CD in Thika (50 KM from Nairobi) and in Nairobi.<br><br>I sell
conference recordings on DVD and people have ordered them online from as far off as Garsen so I wonder which people are you referring to who believe will not shop online if the facility was available.<br><br>Bata has just launched an online ordering system which includes delivery, it is a partnership with such an organisation that PCK needs not WiFi hot spots. <br><br>KENet has provided high speed connectivity across Universities most of which is being used for youtube viewing while next door the most profitable business is the photocopying of books at a cost 3 times that of buying the book all because the student in Maseno or Tana River University college can not afford to come to Nairobi to buy a new or used copy of the book. <br><br>Tell me that if the student had a way to order the book online and have it delivered securely that he would still opt for the photocopy because there is quality assurance by looking at the original<br><br>Many
people still have faith in PCK me included which is why every time I have the option when shipping in items from overseas I will use EMS. Even found out that it was cheaper to send my books from Amazon (still import physical books even though I have a kindle, but don't I say) to my sister's in the US, which is free, then onward shipping using USPS aka EMS. <br><br>Mwangi, I do not theorize I actually do practice what I preach, I participate in online commerce which is why I can stand on this pedestal and give my opinion and proposals to PCK having no fear or reservations to the likelihood of potshots.<br><br>Regards<br> <br><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 30 August 2012, 14:13<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1732802299">For some of these things the product creates the market. Its like saying how there was no market for cars in the 1800s. We dont buy online because it is not reliable, efficient or trustworthy yet. It is why we all troop to Nakumatt because there is some quality assurance. <br>
<br><div class="yiv1732802299gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Josphat Karanja <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:karanjajf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=karanjajf@gmail.com">karanjajf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv1732802299gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Robert,<br><br>Is there anyone currently playing in the online delivery space, say for items purchased from Amazon?<br><br>I would be interested in figures of how many people are really buying items online.<br><br><br clear="all">
Regards<br>...........................................................<br>Josphat Karanja, <br><div style="text-align: left;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><b><i><br></i></b></font></div><div style="text-align: left;">
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<br><br><div class="yiv1732802299gmail_quote"><div><div class="yiv1732802299h5">On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">Hi Walu,<br><br>Thanks, nonetheless, for the belated lobbying with the ideas being put forth by the new PMG I might be coming back for more lobbying.<br>
<br>More importantly is the issue you have raised about degrees for a degrees sake and I made it clear to PS Ndemo at the height of my lobbying that I would not go and get a US$ 1,500/- online degree just to meet a flawed requirement. Sometimes what you need is passion (Hon. Kajwang raised the issue of a "passionometer") and a clear understanding of the problem and a grasp of the ideal solution.<br>
<br>Installing WiFi connectivity and offering it at Kes. 150/= per month will never get PCK out of the situation it currently is in now, the silence on this comment is a clear indication that very few of us actually read the article. <br>
<br>I would like to believe that the WiFi
was to only access e-gov and local content other wise at those charges he would not be able to cover the cost of international bandwidth let alone the backbone infrastructure to Internet the various post offices.<br><br>
<img alt=""><br><br>He would rather be thinking of having an e-commerce platform where you could order items online (a blank CD in Nairobi is 15/- in Thika it is 25/-), pay using PostaPay/PesaPay/mPesa and have them delivered by EMS or PostMail, that is the thinking expected of someone at the helm of PCK today and not one who believes that PCK is only about letter.<br>
<br>So if the WiFi system had 1 million users of which 20% bought online, from a locally situated store, two item every month weighing less than five KG (that is the smallest chargeable unit) for which they paid 250/- each for delivery that would result in a revenue of 1,200,000,000/- (1.2 Billion).<br>
<br>This solution can be implemented today without having to spend 1.2
Billion in CapEx just use the Safaricom cloud to host the sites and spend 150 Million in media advertising and 50 Million in printing direct marketing materials to be inserted in the post office boxes (no stamp cost required).<br>
<br>If the board and management of PCK are truly interested in revamping the corporation I can put together a consortium of local developers a Pasha loan from KICTB and free hosting from Safaricom (yet to discuss with them but this post should have them salivating to jump on board) to implement the e-commerce solution proposed above all in exchange for a small revenue share arrangement.<br>
<br>There PMG free advice from the person who believes he deserved the job if it was based on the results of a passionometer. <br><br>Regards<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: <a rel="nofollow">+254722511225</a>,
<a rel="nofollow">+254202010696</a><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...<br> </font> </div><div><div> <br><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
Just read from todays Nation <b><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/97z64zb">http://tinyurl.com/97z64zb</a> </b>that the new Postmaster General
holds a doctorate from <br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.washint.edu/en/">http://www.washint.edu/en/</a> - Washington International University, a Cyberspace University.<br><br>Whereas I have nothing against online education - having benefited from one - I just thought that I could share some advice. If you want to do an online program, do it from a PHYSICAL university that has an Online/Distance Learning division. In other words, the university should physically exist. Similar to if you want to do Online banking, better do it from an existing bank (e.g. Equity, Barclays, KCB, etc) who have an online division. That way you are likely to get your quality and credibility issues sorted out.<br>
<br>I know Wikipedia is not very authoritative but it is always a good place to go to after asking
Google. And so I did and this is what Wikipeidia said about Washington International University.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_International_University">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_International_University</a><br>
<br>It even claims in its list of graduates and I quote<br><br>" Asman Kamama Abongotum; Kenya's Deputy Minister for Education. He could
lose his parliamentary position because of the unrecognized degree" Actually our Commission of Higher Education seems to have a problem with this University.<br><br>I know the PCK board - that includes our PS Ndemo - may have seen this but argued rightfully that one may NOT need a PhD to ran a simple Postal Service in some developing economy. In which case, our self-nominated candidate, Bobby Yawe should have been called for the interview?<br>
<br>Just thinking loudly and hope Kibunja and his friends (the mboys in mblue) dont come for me claiming this is hate speech - because I think its a mixture of advice and belated lobbying :-)<br><br>walu.<br><br><br><br>
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