<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Hi,<br><br>I made a less provocative quote about IBM sometime back and I ended up receiving threatening phone calls for self appointed advocates.<br><br>Hope the same does not befall you.<br><br>Regards<br><br>PS. In teresting read<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 10:00<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] The King is Dead...Long Live the King (The Remarkable story of IBM's Mainframe Computer)<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1376406900">Hi,<br><br>Like any threatened species that survives, the mainframe evolved. It has
been tweaked to master new programming languages, like Java, and new
software operating systems, like Linux. <br><br>In the fast lane of the ICT world, IBM had to find the best way to keep the trademark King alive, The Mainframe had to undergo numerous changes , Such is the world of technology.<br>
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1. Re: Counterfeit Eggs and why we must automate produce records<br>
(Mark Mwangi)<br>
2. Re: The King is Dead...Long Live the King (The Remarkable<br>
story of IBM's Mainframe Computer) (Mark Mwangi)<br>
3. Re: Counterfeit Eggs and why we must automate produce records<br>
(Mark Mwangi)<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:28:46 +0300<br>
From: Mark Mwangi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Counterfeit Eggs and why we must automate<br>
produce records<br>
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This is shocking to say the least. Local markets must be protected. The<br>
story about free markets is hogwash since the countries that preach it the<br>
most do not allow foreign companies to dominate their markets. This reminds<br>
me of the political nightmare that ensued when a Chinese company attempted<br>
to buy an american oil company. And this happened in the 'freest' country<br>
on the planet.<br>
<br>
We must lock down our markets.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Mark<br>
><br>
> Not in China. This is an interesting topic on ethics and the profit<br>
> motive. Probably beyond that its criminal.<br>
><br>
> Dr.Ndemo raises a point that is beyond this though. How have we opened up<br>
> our countries to everything when we should actually be making a case for<br>
> protecting nascent industries from unfair competition?<br>
><br>
> For example Japan and Korea still protect their motor industries even<br>
> after 20 years; America and the EU still has major subsidies for its<br>
> agricultural sector. And the list goes on as can be seen by cases piling up<br>
> at the WTO:-<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_by_country_e.htm#complainant">http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_by_country_e.htm#complainant</a><br>
><br>
> An interesting fact: Only Egypt and South Africa have cases pending both<br>
> for or against them at the WTO. This begs the question:-<br>
><br>
> Don't African countries have issues to be resolved at the WTO? Doesn't<br>
> Kenya? Last time I checked we were members...<br>
><br>
> This issue of fake eggs just brings to the fore the implications both from<br>
> a health perspective and an economical one the effects of free trade across<br>
> borders without proper mechanisms to protect citizens and local industry.<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Mark Mwangi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Fake Eggs? how. . .what. . .why would you go to all that<br>
>> effort? wouldn't the real eggs be cheaper?<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Listers,<br>
>>> When ISO standards were introduced to Kenya, few of us paid attention.<br>
>>> Europe today insists on produce data including the soil type, amount<br>
>>> fertilizer, chemicals aaplied etc. Time has come when we need all poultry<br>
>>> data. There is evidence that it is far cheaper to produce conterfeit eggs<br>
>>> than waiting for the checken to lay them. See link below and why we must<br>
>>> be vigilant.<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> We need better scanning of all containers coming into this country and<br>
>>> possibly monitor movement of all foreigners who have doggy incomes.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ndemo.<br>
>>><br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:22:40 +0300<br>
From: Mark Mwangi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mwangy@gmail.com">mwangy@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] The King is Dead...Long Live the King (The<br>
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As they said they had to adapt and join the cheap microprocessor army but<br>
maintain the mainframe model or solution.<br>
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> .....The death of the mainframe has been predicted many times over the<br>
> years. But it has prevailed because it has been overhauled time and again.<br>
> In the early 1990s, the personal computer revolution took off and I.B.M.,<br>
> wedded to its big-iron computers, was in deep trouble. To make the<br>
> mainframe more competitive, its insides were retooled, using low-cost<br>
> microprocessors as the computing engine....<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/technology/ibm-mainframe-evolves-to-serve-the-digital-world.html?_r=2">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/technology/ibm-mainframe-evolves-to-serve-the-digital-world.html?_r=2</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:32:38 +0300<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Counterfeit Eggs and why we must automate<br>
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Kenchic has had a farm-to-fork system for a while now and I believe this is<br>
what prompted the likes of KFC to set up shop here. Even the produce in<br>
Marikiti should be traceable to the individual farmer that grew the stuff.<br>
This will force accountability and in the case of contaminants Isolation<br>
and further action.<br>
<br>
Juakali methods are a detriment to everyone.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:10 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Mr. Lusega,<br>
> I see so many great software solutions but we have never managed to<br>
> recognize our own creativity. This is probably what Ngugi called<br>
> decolonizing the mind. Last Friday I launched Bata Online at Sankara<br>
> Hotel. What made my day was that Bata will utilize our own Liko's payment<br>
> gateway, Pesapal. These in my view would be some of the incremental gains<br>
> that will create confidence among ourselves.<br>
><br>
> The current procurement law is a reflection of how distrust ourselves and<br>
> we all have to blame. We abuse any minor loophole that exist to the extent<br>
> that even well meaning projects are hurt. We simply must begin to embrace<br>
> those values we created in the constitution. Sad that we want to legislate<br>
> values when more than 90% of us belong to some religion.<br>
><br>
> Counterfeit eggs must provoke us to build systems that will ensure the<br>
> security of our people. How can we leverage on technology to protect our<br>
> produce from the farmer to the market? Do we have a farmer database? Can we<br>
> use such technologies such as RFID to enable sources and traceability of<br>
> produce? I this is why we went to school.<br>
><br>
> Ndemo.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
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