Brian,<div><br></div><div>I gather that most of those questions were asked, therefore we were well represented by the "multi-stakeholders". </div><div><br></div><div>But from the onset, the so called "community" was invited to "Observe" the AGM. Such a bad tone was in bad taste, and it worked the desired results of low turnout. As Robert put it correctly, the community work was to tweet and FB the proceedings :(</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 August 2012 14:42, Brian Munyao Longwe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Kivuva,<div><br></div><div><ol><li>You can't send email questions at 12.45 for an AGM that started at 8am :(</li><li>Why did you not come in person to have these and other concerns you have raised addressed?</li><li>
A frequent comment that came out at the AGM was that the very low turnout out is indicative of Kenyan's propensity to "shadow box" and shy away from meaningful engagement.</li>
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</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div>Kenic AGM Questions.</div><div>For the "observers", I wish you can ask these questions:</div>
<div>1. Is there conflict of interest if the "change manager" / CEO of KENIC is a player in the domain registrar business?</div>
<div>2. As a regulator licensing authority, what is the role of CCK in the Kenic board?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>NB: Independence is a prerequisite for any telecommunications regulator in this case CCK. Regulator independence involves: the separation of the regulator from the operators that it regulates; lack of political influence on the regulator; and an open and transparent regulatory decision making process.</div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 August 2012 11:24, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font face="georgia,serif">Kivuva<br><br><br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Kivuva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms (max 6yrs)</span></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Walu, I thoutht your second point is in the articles of association?<br>
<div> </div></blockquote></div><div> <font face="georgia,serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">It is. Unless it was changed recently.</span><br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 24 August 2012 10:14, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top">@Ndemo just made some remarks...<br><br>1) that perhaps KENIC finds a way to include ALL stakeholders (i.e. anyone with a .KE string).<br>
2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms (max 6yrs)<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 8/24/12, robert yawe <i><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>From: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Talks to resolve row at KENIC<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>Date: Friday, August 24, 2012, 9:31 AM<br>
<br><div><br><br>I am at the kenic meeting where I thought we would be well represented but as expected there are more kenic board members than kictanet
representatives.<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br>On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 23:10 BST Grace Githaiga wrote:<br><br>><br>>Talks to resolve row at Internet firm<br>><a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Talks+to+resolve+row+at+Internet+firm/-/1006/1485812/-/oonana/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Talks+to+resolve+row+at+Internet+firm/-/1006/1485812/-/oonana/-/index.html</a><br>
><br>>The multi-stakeholder institution charged with administering Kenya’s Internet domain .ke, is hoping to iron out differences over its recent restructuring in its annual general meeting on Friday.The meeting, which will be held in Nairobi, brings together registrars, government representatives, Internet businesses and other people interested in the ICT sector.Speaking on Thursday, the organisation’s change manager, Mr Sammy Buruchara, said the forum would provide a good platform for the board of the
institution to iron out issues facing the company.“It will give the board of the Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC) an opportunity to clear the air over all the allegations arising from the ongoing organisational restructure and create rapport on the way forward,” Mr Buruchara said.The AGM comes at a time when the institution is facing questions from the public over its decision to fire all its employees in what it says is an organisational<br>
restructure.A number of board members have also left KeNIC in the past two months.In an email, Information and Communications Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo termed the decision to terminate employees’ contracts without consulting stakeholders as drastic and unprocedural.“Even in the Government, firing employees has several steps that must be followed to ensure security of tenure. This came as a surprise, yet we are supposed to be stakeholders. We must all respect the spirit of the Constitution,
especially in such a multi-stakeholder agency,” Dr Ndemo said.In reaction, Mr Buruchara, who is on a three-month contract to oversee the execution of an institutional assessment report prepared by ZappKaas Consulting and Training Ltd, said KeNIC is an organisation with a working board and people should stop questioning its decision.Currently, KeNIC is the administrator of over 20,000 domains at the .ke registry. <br>
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