Thank you all for the input. <br><br>At least now, I'm in the know concerning how to behave while online.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2012 18:29, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">Hi Joseph,<br><br>Thanks a million for the concise analysis of the issue and for this I am more informed.<br>
<br>Please do not play down your ability, until you mentioned it I am sure no one thought you where a student keep it up we need lawyers who can articulate tech.<br><br>Regards<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>
Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" value="+254722511225" target="_blank">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" value="+254202010696" target="_blank">+254202010696</a><br>
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Joseph McDonald <<a href="mailto:mcdonaldoj@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcdonaldoj@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 23 August 2012, 10:11<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Communications Licencing Act<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div>I think Robert Alai can be charged under section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communication Act CAP 411A revised 2009.<br><br>The Section talks about Improper use of a telecommunication system (A phone ,Computer/Internet etc)<br>
<br>29. A person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system—<br>(a) sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; <br><br>or<br><br>(b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding fifty thousand shillings, or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or to both.<br>
<br>You also raised the issue of re tweeting or forwarding a message.<br><br>Under Defamation Law any one who repeats a defamatory publication or statement is liable.<br><br>So for example if you write a book which has defamatory statements and the affected person decides to sue he can sue the author,the publisher,the bookshop,a library that stocks the book or even the street vendor.<br>
<br>So in this case if you re-tweet or forward an sms you are just as liable as the originator of the tweet or sms.<br><br>I am a law student and not a lawyer yet....so my facts might be wrong ...but that is just my opinion based on my limited understanding of the matter.<br>
<br>Thanks<br><br><div>On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" target="_blank">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ali et al,<br>
<br>
I like that argument, which is penned on responsibilities. There is no<br>
shortcut to that.<br>
<br>
I'm asking all these because a while ago there was a lister who asked<br>
issues regarding cohesion and it was pointed out that the NCIC (?) Act<br>
might have been passed by time since its enactment a while back. So<br>
that means it needs an ovehaul, to address emerging issues.<br>
Also, in this case of Alai, I retweeted what he said about Dr. Mutua,<br>
does it make me an accessory? I remember immediately after Dr. Ndemo<br>
banned live broadcast in 2008, he said some messages that flared<br>
ethnic tensions were forwarded through as text messages over cell<br>
phones, adding that all who sent or forwarded the messages are bound<br>
to be prosecuted, until the originator of the message is found.<br>
I'm just concerned because I might have retweeted or even shared on<br>
facebook a post that could be categorised cromibal in nature.<br>
The quoted Communications Licensing Act, if it exists, really need to<br>
be availed so that we can have a look at it.<br>
And a just by the way, Robert Alai is alleged to operate the<br>
@KenyaPolice twitter account, is that a crime too, considering that<br>
there are online (Twitter mostly) parodies of Mwai Kibaki, Francis<br>
Atwoli, Alfred Mutua etc!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Solomon<br>
<br>
On 23/08/2012, Ali Hussein <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> Solomon & listers<br>
><br>
> I hate to say this but something like this was bound to happen sooner or<br>
> later to Robert.<br>
><br>
> There seems to be a belief that some bloggers cannot be held responsible for<br>
> some of the toxic stuff they write online. Beyond the act there are<br>
> still laws against abuse and its about time that we take responsibility for<br>
> what we do and not hide behind some obscure online credos that say you can<br>
> get away with anything you write online.<br>
><br>
> Me thinks that the same principals that apply offline should apply online.<br>
> For example if you abuse me offline there are laws against that. Why should<br>
> it be different online? After all shouldn't the same laws protect the one<br>
> being abused?<br>
><br>
> I know this may not be a popular thing to say right now but some one needs<br>
> to say it..<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
><br>
> +254 773/713 601113<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone®<br>
><br>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" target="_blank">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Listers,<br>
>><br>
>> Good morning,<br>
>><br>
>> I'm reading this story on Daily Nation,<br>
>> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Blogger+denies+abusing+Mutua/-/1056/1485226/-/10imd12z/-/index.html#comment-626158953" target="_blank">www.nation.co.ke/News/Blogger+denies+abusing+Mutua/-/1056/1485226/-/10imd12z/-/index.html#comment-626158953</a>,<br>
>> and accorind to the charges, Alai violated the Communication Licencing<br>
>> Act.<br>
>><br>
>> My questions:<br>
>> 1. What exactly did he violate in the Act?<br>
>> 2. Where can one get (a soft copy of) the said Act?<br>
>> 3. Is this law same as the Kenya Communication (Amendment) Act?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
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