<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Grace and all</div><div><br></div><div>There has always been some sort of regulation albeit on a very long string. The point I was trying to make is that if we are at all to expand ITRs to include the Internet and other related services then we need to expand that environment to include signatories that are not necessarily government related. As mentioned before civil society groups, Multi Nationals all are now recognized to be part part and parcel of the ecosystem.</div><div><br></div><div>Regulation in itself is not necessarily a bad thing. In good faith it is deemed to be there to protect all stakeholders. The onus is of course on all of us to endure vigilance that it is not abused. A case in point is the recent media reports about collusion in the telecoms space in Kenya where some Telcos were accused of price collusion with the cooperation of CCK. Whether these reports were correct or not we should commend our vigilance and the action CCK took to quash those rumors. A few weeks later we see an agreement with all Telcos and CCK amicably agreeing to reduce further interconnection rates. That in my opinion is a good example of regulation working.<br><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><br></div><div>+254 773/713 601113</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone®</div></div><div><br>On Jun 14, 2012, at 10:18 PM, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)" <<a href="mailto:nmutungu@gmail.com">nmutungu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Ali and listers, <br>Its interesting, the call for a global regulatory environment. But seeing as the Internet developed because of among others the openness, suppose there is regulation, are there certain aspects that should be left unregulated, at least by governments, or at least for the time being? <br>
<br>Grace B<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/14 Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Listers</div><div><br></div><div>I believe we should start advocating for an updated global regulatory environment. As one lister mentioned are ITRs even necessary in this brave new world? The fact that it takes so long within the ITU member states to make even a slight change in language for anything involving treaties that affect member states is caution enough - 22 years since the last update!!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Let's look at the environment now and then.</div><div><br></div><div>1. National Telecomms companies are either defunct or moribund replaced ( or in some cases swallowed) by all intents and purposes by large dominant Multi-nationals or regional giants. Safaricom (Vodafone), Orange (France Telecom), Airtel (Bharti) and yu (Essar) in Kenya are all controlled by these. So my humble view is that the only point of discussion for us is from a user and regulatory perspective. In this I believe we need to ensure a level playing field for all players and as much as possible retain some sort of Net Neutrality. </div>
<div><br></div><div>2. Is this achievable through the ATU? The fact that the only time this was mentioned was yesterday by Daktari Ndemo and that the CCK is still nil by mouth on this is an answer in itself. How do we participate at the ATU. Does this forum have any mandate on this? What is the role of TESPOK? KITOS? Even if we do go the ATU way we must have a plan B to move our Agenda forward. Do we know if other African countries are even discussing this? If so what forums are there to have a meeting of minds? </div>
<div><br></div><div>A casual look at the ATU site makes zero reference to this issue of ITRs, internet governance and freedom. Further it looks like their calendar is full for the remainder of the year and into the next year. Being realistic what chances do we have of a joint position across Africa before December's Dubai meeting? Any lurkers out there from the rest of Africa to join in and give us your perspective? </div>
<div><br></div><div> Let's start with home. What is the position of the various organizations? TESPOK? KeNIC? Computer Society? CCK?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards </div><div><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><br></div>
<div>+254 773/713 601113</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone®</div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Listers,<br><br>
<p class="MsoNormal">International Telecommunication regulations are general
principles related to international telecommunication services and its
transport means.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The purpose and Scope includes among other things:<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p>
<ul><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>Interconnection
and interoperability of telecommunication facilities.</li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""></span></span></span>Giving
precedence for the <b>Radio Regulations</b> in case of contradiction.</li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""></span></span></span>Allowing,
within its framework, mutual agreements between countries.</li><li><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""></span></span></span>To
set primary rules for accounting and settlements between members.<span>
</span><span> </span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings"></span>The
ITR treaty was adopted in the <i>World Administrative Telegraph and Telephone</i>
<i>Conference</i> (WATTC) held in Melbourne, 1988. It however came into force on July 1</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">1990, since then no updates have been made to the ITR provisions which leads to the following question:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><br></p><ol><li>As countries prepare for the World Congress on International Telecommunications to be held in Dubai in December 2012 (<a href="http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/overview.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/overview.aspx</a>) What should Kenya's priorities be?</li>
<li>Should Kenya make its stand as a country or should we bargain through the Africa Telecommunications Union as per Dr. Ndemos proposal during a discussion on the list what are the implications of taking a stand as a country or as a regional block ?<br>
</li></ol><p>The floor is open<br></p>
<br>-- <br>Barrack O. Otieno<div>+254721325277</div><div>+254-20-2498789<br>Skype: barrack.otieno</div><div><a href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a>
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