<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Good question Kivuva. In Internet time that was eons ago. Question is how about now. What can we do? Cyber squatting is still very prevalent. <br><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><br></div><div>+254 773/713 601113</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone®</div></div><div><br>On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Ali Hussein, <a href="http://kenya.com">kenya.com</a> was registered in 1995 when domain squatting was taking root. I wonder how many of us knew what a domain is.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 June 2012 16:33, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Alice<br><br>I agree. What is more interesting is that there are only 3 Geographic names. Africa, dotAfrica and Durban. These are real concerns that will need to be addressed. Even more interesting is that the rest are basically South African through DSTV. <br>


<br>The implications of cost, national pride etc arise. <br><br>For example a quick search for <a href="http://Kenya.com">Kenya.com</a> brings up<br><br><font size="1"> Registrant<br>                     Abstract Holdings International Ltd.<br>                   Alex Royf<br>


                   The Business Centre                   <br>                   Upton, St. Michael (BB)<br>                   BB11103<br>                   <br>  Administrative Contact<br>  <br>                   Abstract Holdings International Ltd.<br>


                   Alex Royf<br>                   The Business Centre                   <br>                   Upton, St. Michael (BB)<br>                   BB11103<br>                   <img src="cid:">@<a href="http://abstractholdings.com" target="_blank">abstractholdings.com</a><br>


                   +1.(246)436 8600<br>                                  <br>                  <br>  Technical Contact<br>  <br>                   Abstract Holdings International Ltd.<br>                   Alex Royf<br>                   The Business Centre                   <br>


                   Upton, St. Michael (BB)<br>                   BB11103<br>                   <img src="cid:">@<a href="http://abstractholdings.com" target="_blank">abstractholdings.com</a><br>
                   +1.(246)436 8600</font><br>                                      <br>Regards<br><br>Ali Hussein<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alice Munyua <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target="_blank">alice@apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>


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    Dear Barrack and all,<br>
    <br>
    In view of the new gTLDs revealed by ICANN, may I suggest that we
    include new gTLDs on the list of issues for discussion?<br>
    <br>
    You will note that out of 1930 applications only 7 are from Africa.<br>
    -What are the implications?<br>
    -What strings are controversial/sensitive from a national
    perspective?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Best<br>
    <br>
    Alice<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Many thanks GG, looking forwad to interesting
      discourse as has been in the previous list discussions.<br>
      <br>
      Best Regards<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Grace
        Githaiga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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              <p style="margin-bottom:1.35em"><font color="#333333" face="Garamond,
                  serif" size="3">Good morning Listers</font></p>
              <p style="margin-bottom:1.35em"><font color="#333333" face="Garamond,
                  serif" size="3"><br>
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              <p style="margin-bottom:1.35em">
                <font color="#333333" face="Garamond, serif" size="3">The
                  Kenyan IGF debate will commence tomorrow and Barrack
                  Otieno will be taking the lead. All your suggestions
                  have been taken on board and even if they do not
                  appear in the main themes, they will be dealt with in
                  the debate. This is the proposed agenda:</font></p>
              <p style="margin-bottom:1.35em"><font color="#333333" face="Garamond,
                  serif" size="3"><b><br>
                  </b></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">1.<span>      </span></span><span style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"> </span></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">ITRs,
                     <b>Thursday June 14, 2012</b></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">2.<span>      </span></span></b><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Intermediary
                    liability,<span>  <b>Friday June 15, 2012</b></span></span><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></b></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">3.<span>      </span></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Technology
                    and violence against women, <b>Monday June 18, 2012</b></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">4.<span>      </span></span></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Open
                    data/E-government<span>, <b>Tuesday June 19, 2012</b></span><b>·</b>        <span> </span></span><span style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></span></font></p>
              <p style="line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-bottom:1.35em;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">5.<span>      </span></span></b><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Infrastructure <b>Wednesday</b>, <b>June
                      20, 2012</b></span><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></b></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">6.<span>      </span></span></b><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Data
                    Protection Bill as well as the Freedom of
                    Information Bill, <b>Thursday June 21, 2012</b></span><b style="line-height:20px"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></b></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">7.<span>      </span></span><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif">Winding
                    up, <b>Friday June 22, 2012.</b></span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;line-height:12.75pt;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt;font-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="line-height:normal" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:Garamond,serif"><b><br>



                    </b></span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt"><font face="Garamond, serif" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px">As always we look forward
                    to a very healthy debate.</span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt"><font face="Garamond, serif" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px"><br>
                  </span></font></p>
              <p style="margin-right:0in;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt"><font face="Garamond, serif" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px">Rgds</span></font></p>
              <span><font color="#888888">
                  <p style="margin-right:0in;color:rgb(42,42,42);margin-left:12pt;margin-bottom:2.25pt"><font face="Garamond, serif" size="3"><span style="line-height:20px">GG</span></font></p>
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