Well said Francis i agree with the issues you raise, we have to deal with softer issues but i still see the need for Smart Infrastructure lets await the data promised by Dr. Ndemo hoping he is given permission it might give further insights.<div>
<br></div><div>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Francis Hook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com" target="_blank">francis.hook@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Barrack<div>Thanks. � I think before integrating ICT into the mix, the enforcement itself MUST be fixed. �Otherwise cameras will only tell us the obvious - that traffic police and motorists are both culpable. � The word "impunity" has oft been bandied around when it comes to Kenya and Kenyans - I am not convinced a camera will shame anyone into proper behavior or to uphold the law. As it were various TV stations have on different occasions secretly filmed police taking bribes, motorists flouting the law, etc (and pls bear in mind, unlike CCTV, TV's reach is much wider and such coverage does "sting" more than the individuals in the footage. � Has that helped?</div>
<div><br></div><div>�I think a solution should �solve a problem without creating others e.g. who will monitor the cameras? OK say we get the funds to hire people to do that. Then who will monitor those monitoring the cameras to ensure they too do not get sucked into graft (i.e. delete footage, look the other way, etc). � Let me take a few steps back. The traffic police are the ones meant to monitor motorists and ensure the law is upheld. � Now that is not happening. �So we want to mount CCTV cameras to monitor them....then we need people to monitor those monitoring the cameras who are monitoring the police who are not monitoring the motorists. � This can go all the way upstream.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think we'd be opening a can of worms if we add a layer of ICT on a problem whose solution should first be proper �enforcement to bring about�behavioural�change. � At some point the anti-corruption authority was doing well to ambush bribe takers....I think that's the type of solution we need first....an independent body to deal with graft. �Once that rot is fixed, CCTV can be added to help the police themselves to dientify hit and runs, monitor and direct traffic flows, etc etc and not simply be a "big brother" type of device intended to scare police and motorists to comply.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My two bits.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">F</font></span><div>
<div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 May 2012 08:19, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">@ Francis,<div><br></div><div>Whats your take on the design issues raised by Dr. Aligula, on another note and to emphasise on the your last paragraph people get away with offences because the officer has the power to release you depending on how you interface on the road, this is a deeply rooted problem can we reduce by intergrating Cameras and other forms of technology that would help deter waywardness. ICTs can help reinforce current enforcement methods.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Francis Hook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com" target="_blank">francis.hook@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Thank you. �It is gratifying to note the drop in casualties, injured, etc between 2003 and 2005 - I think that is attributable to the "Michuki rules". ��<div>
<br></div><div>Curious to know what happened between 1977 and 1979 to cause a drastic drop (looks like 100% y-o-y) in "serious injuries per 100 casualties"? (in the "Crash survival rates chart).�</div>
<div><br></div><div>Looking at "Road risk travel patterns" - where it shows the "fatalities per 100,000 vehicles" seems to show an all time low (since 1963) in 2011. �I think to "read" this accurately we'd perhaps want to:</div>
<div>1 - Compare the population growth rate vs growth rate of vehicles on the road. �If the human population has grown faster, then naturally the fatalities per 100k vehicles will be lower - a distortion I think. �</div>
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2 - Between 1963 and 2011 there have been more roads built, more towns developed, etc ergo more time spent on the road, longer distances travelled collectively, greater time spent on the roads, etc and perhaps higher probabilities of accidents happening. �Also I would like to think the types of roads themselves increase the risks of accidents by speeding - higher chances of fatalities on smooth tarmac than on a lumpy murram back road.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just my two bits. �However, some of the listers feel ICT can help with the issue of Thika Road - but your stats esp for 2003-2005 CLEARLY show that slight changes to the traffic code and proper enforcement can help turn this around. � So lets pass the buck to the minister of transport, the traffic police etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 17 May 2012 18:00, Eric Aligula <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jairah@kippra.or.ke" target="_blank">jairah@kippra.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Listers<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">As you debate the very grave road safety situation in Kenya, we would wish to share this preliminary information from a study we are conducting on the accuracy of road safety data.� Good data is critical for effective policy formulation, implementation and evaluation.� Anecdotal evidence suggests a significant level of underreporting, compounded by errors in other complimentary data sets.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">However, on the basis of what is available, we aver that the major problem in respect of road safety in Kenya is a human problem.� That is our weakest link. How to deal with it is key.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is very broad brush and we welcome feedback even as we look for answers from Thika Road.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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