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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Daktari,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Edwin <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matunda Nyanchama<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Edwin<br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>Evans<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>Shukrani.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda" target="_blank"><span class=yshortcuts><span style='color:#366388'>nmatunda; </span></span></a>Skype: okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b>info@aganoconsulting.com</b><br> </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous</i><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com><br><b>To:</b> Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1273029425><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Daktari,<br>I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that.<br><br>Just my thoughts.<br><br>Evans<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <<a href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>Edwin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>Have a good day.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; <a href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a><br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda" target="_blank"><span style='color:#366388'>nmatunda; </span></a>Skype: okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b>info@aganoconsulting.com</b><br> </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous</i><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'>This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Edwin Onchari <<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Matunda Nyanchama' <<a href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> 'BPO Kenya' <<a href="mailto:bpokenya@egroups.com" target="_blank">bpokenya@egroups.com</a>>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Edwin </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=<a href="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+eonchari</a>=<a href="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matunda Nyanchama<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Edwin<br><b>Cc:</b> BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Re: How To Revive Postal Service </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><br>Amenya<br><br>You are living in the past.<br><br>Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic<br>leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is<br>the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and<br>competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in<br>Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.<br><br>In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have<br>created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets<br>their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be<br>accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key<br>enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay<br>your bills, etc.<br><br>Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for<br>us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in<br>the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking<br>advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.<br><br>Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he<br>understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT<br>department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under<br>very difficult circumstances.<br><br>Long story short: we hit a brick wall.<br><br>The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them<br>have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast<br>meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review<br>one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of<br>the month!<br><br>Zip productivity!<br><br>I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be<br>for another day!<br><br>In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was<br>supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international<br>money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years<br>later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism,<br>were in the dock for embezzlement.<br><br>Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian<br>Tigers: we eat it all!<br><br>Matunda Nyanchama<br><br>--- In <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer" target="_blank">NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com</a>, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...><br>wrote:<br>><br>> I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk<br>> together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he<br>> decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when<br>> Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.<br>><br>> Back to my little thinking.<br>><br>> I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections<br>in<br>> 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send<br>their<br>> respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also<br>via<br>> parcel firms.?<br>><br>> This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and<br>indirect and<br>> KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers<br>etc.<br>><br>> Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental<br>> boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels<br>movements<br>> with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.<br>><br>> So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via<br>> registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities<br>because<br>> when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire<br>people<br>> ,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.<br>><br>> It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be<br>> affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.<br>><br>> Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.<br>><br>> They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes<br>what<br>> if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to<br>have<br>> parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the<br>> manifestos in their mail boxes.<br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Thanks<br>> Gibson Amenya<br>> Level Moja Solutions<br>> Skype amenya.gibson<br>> <a href="http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke</a><br>></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; <a href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a><br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda" target="_blank">nmatunda; </a>Skype: okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b><a href="mailto:info@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank">info@aganoconsulting.com</a></b><br> </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. 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