<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div id="yiv1803261535"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_133542111206348"><span id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063627">Listers (Edwin & Dr. too), <br></span><span></span></div><div id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063651"><span id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063627">The forum has already shared the ideas of how to move forward and yes there are some people very busy crafting a solution while the discussions progress. I think that we have engaged too long and too much in the "what" without dwelling or putting in as much effort on the "how, when and who". Check #140Friday. <br></span></div><br><div id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063996"><span id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063627">Some
Discussions are good but they must move to having clearly articulated objectives, responsible parties identified and individuals appointed, assigned or volunteer to follow through within given timelines to avoid this becoming an academic/theoretical exercise. <br><br>If this decisive and deliberate step does not happen this discussion will mushroom in the future only that it might have been overtaken by events. <br></span></div><div id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_133542111206351"> </div><div>Regards,<br id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_133542111206356"><br id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_133542111206359"></div><div id="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_133542111206362">Patrick M. Karanja<br><br> <div class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063237" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063239" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr">
<font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Edwin Onchari
<eonchari@lynxbits.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> mutuota@yahoo.com <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:19 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1803261535"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1803261535WordSection1"><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063253" style="color:#1F497D;">Dkt,</span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063255" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063257" style="color:#1F497D;">As we all deliberate on which prong of the fork to take, I believe that if the independent body was to become off a parliamentary process, then the government will be bound to fund it. Such a body will have the independence to provide oversight and alignment of ICT initiatives to carry us forward.</span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063259" style="color:#1F497D;">
</span></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063261" style="color:#1F497D;">Best Regards,</span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063263" style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063265" style="color:#1F497D;">Edwin </span></div></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063269" style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063271" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Matunda Nyanchama [mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:23
PM<br><b>To:</b> Edwin Onchari<br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; 'BPO Kenya'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063273" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Edwin</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063275" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063277" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">I think I will let others speak. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063279"
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063281" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">In my experience when we have reached such "forks in the road" a few people (passionate enough with the idea) retreat to a corner, explore possibilities, come with recommendations/options/etc. And then there is a vote (adoption you may say) and a decision is reached and whatever is resolved moves to the next level: implementation. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063283" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063285" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">On government "seed money" you are
right about prospects because (mainly) this has not been the tradition of our government. It doesn't mean it cannot be done. In some countries government even funds organizations that challenge its own decisions in court in order to test/establish the legality/support for those positions. It is a form of transparency.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063287" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063289" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Talking of forks in a road, one Yogi Berra says thus (or something to that effect): <i>when you get to a
fork in a road, take it! </i></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063291" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063293" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda"><span class="yiv1803261535yshortcuts"><span style="color:#366388;">nmatunda; </span></span></a>Skype:
okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063297" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b>info@aganoconsulting.com</b><br> </span></i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063299" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063301" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where
a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous</i><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063303" style="font-size:7.5pt;color:black;">This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063305" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span
class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063309" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063311" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063313" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com><br><b>To:</b> 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063315" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063317" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv1803261535"><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063319" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Daktari,</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063321" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063323" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063325" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063327" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still
with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground?</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063329" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063331" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063333" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div
class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063335" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Best Regards,</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063337" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063339" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063341" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063343" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Edwin </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063345" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
0in;"><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063349" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063351" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matunda Nyanchama<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Edwin<br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063353" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063355" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063357" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Evans</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063359" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div
class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063361" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063363" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063365" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063367" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063369"
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063371" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063373" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063375" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063377" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063379" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div
class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063381" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063383" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063385" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063387" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063389" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Shukrani.</span><span
class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063391" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063393" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063395" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063397" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda"><span
class="yiv1803261535yshortcuts"><span style="color:#366388;">nmatunda; </span></span></a>Skype: okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063401" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063403" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b>info@aganoconsulting.com</b><br> </span></i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063405" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063407"
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063411" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" -
Anonymous</i><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063413" style="font-size:7.5pt;color:black;">This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063415" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063419"
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063421" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063423" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com><br><b>To:</b> Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063425" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063427" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1803261535"><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063431" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Daktari,<br>I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that.<br><br>Just my thoughts.<br><br>Evans</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063433" style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063435" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">On Wed, Apr 25, 2012
at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063437" style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063439" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Edwin</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063441" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063443" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063445" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063447" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063449" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063451" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063453" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063455" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of
a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA).</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063457" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063459" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063461" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063463" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">I know
funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063465" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063467" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063469" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063471" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation.</span><span
class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063473" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063475" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063477" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063479" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Have a good day.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063481" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063483" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063485"
style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063487" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a><br>Agano Consulting Inc.; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.aganoconsulting.com">www.aganoconsulting.com</a>; Twitter: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda"><span style="color:#366388;">nmatunda; </span></a>Skype: okiambe<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063491"
style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063493" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br>Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! <br>Call: <b>+1-888-587-1150 </b>or <b>info@aganoconsulting.com</b><br> </span></i><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063495" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063497" style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063501" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br><i>"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On
my desk I have a workstation…" -
Anonymous</i><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063503" style="font-size:7.5pt;color:black;">This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063505" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063509"
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063511" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063513" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> Edwin Onchari <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Matunda Nyanchama' <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com">mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> 'BPO Kenya' <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bpokenya@egroups.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bpokenya@egroups.com">bpokenya@egroups.com</a>>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <<a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063515" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063517" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063519" style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063521" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same
forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen.</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063523" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063525" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063527" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063529" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Edwin </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063531" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063535" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063537" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari" target="_blank"
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari">kictanet-bounces+eonchari</a>=<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matunda Nyanchama<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Edwin<br><b>Cc:</b> BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service</span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063539" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063541" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063543" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063545" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063547" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063549" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Re: How To Revive Postal Service </span><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063551" style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv1803261535MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv1803261535yui_3_2_0_25_1335421112063555" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"><br>Amenya<br><br>You are living in the past.<br><br>Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic<br>leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is<br>the growth
of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and<br>competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in<br>Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.<br><br>In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have<br>created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets<br>their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be<br>accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key<br>enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay<br>your bills,
etc.<br><br>Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for<br>us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in<br>the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking<br>advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.<br><br>Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he<br>understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT<br>department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under<br>very difficult circumstances.<br><br>Long story short: we hit a brick wall.<br><br>The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them<br>have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast<br>meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review<br>one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of<br>the month!<br><br>Zip productivity!<br><br>I could write tons about
the unrealized PCK potential but let that be<br>for another day!<br><br>In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was<br>supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international<br>money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years<br>later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism,<br>were in the dock for embezzlement.<br><br>Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian<br>Tigers: we eat it all!<br><br>Matunda Nyanchama<br><br>--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer">NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com</a>, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...><br>wrote:<br>><br>> I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk<br>> together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone
yet he<br>> decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when<br>> Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.<br>><br>> Back to my little thinking.<br>><br>> I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections<br>in<br>> 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send<br>their<br>> respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also<br>via<br>> parcel firms.?<br>><br>> This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and<br>indirect and<br>> KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers<br>etc.<br>><br>> Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental<br>> boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels<br>movements<br>> with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.<br>><br>> So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their
manifestos via<br>> registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities<br>because<br>> when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire<br>people<br>> ,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.<br>><br>> It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be<br>> affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.<br>><br>> Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.<br>><br>> They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes<br>what<br>> if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to<br>have<br>> parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the<br>> manifestos in their mail boxes.<br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Thanks<br>> Gibson Amenya<br>> Level Moja Solutions<br>> Skype amenya.gibson<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
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