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Consider the following phrases in our variant of colloquial English “IBM is deadly”, “IBM is kicking” or in Sheng: “IBM ni wanoma” or “IBM wako juu mbaya”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gado, Yawe, Mado, Madd, four letter names, same stuff! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'>Eugene Lidede | </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'>Chief Technology Officer | Synergy Systems Limited<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'>6th Floor, Phoenix House, Kenyatta Ave. | Cell: +254 721 289497/476367 | Tel: +254 20 2113163<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'><a href="http://live.mystocks.co.ke">live.mystocks.co.ke</a> | <a href="http://www.propertykenya.com">www.propertykenya.com</a> | <a href="http://www.mystocks.co.ke">www.mystocks.co.ke</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;line-height:15.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:#E36C0A'>Outstanding Online Investment Content Provider 2009</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'> – </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'>Computer Society of Kenya</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kictanet-bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barrack Otieno<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2012 11:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Eugene Lidede<br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] IBM is dead!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Well, my two cents,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Robert used Chinua Achebes literary approach :-), most of us want direct English (the twitter era). At least he has brought to fore the key issues even though the title appears sensational, the end justifies the means.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Best Regards<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gilda Odera <<a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Shiko,<br><br>You mean "Gilda Odera", thank you:)<br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna shiko" <<a href="mailto:ednawanjiku@gmail.com" target="_blank">ednawanjiku@gmail.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:53 PM<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] IBM is dead!<br><br><br>Listers ,<br>all good systems are as a result of criticism i like the way Yawe puts<br>his thoughts across and i think this forum is for enlightening the<br>massess like Gilda Otieno says lets not be intimidated or intimidate<br>others we are not politicians lolhow else do we learn .<br><br>On 4/18/12, Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks @Walu, Your clarification is a good reflection.<br><br>Now some listers will understand the social mutation of kictanet, and its<br>pecking order too.<br><br>Regards<br>10rdmwesh<br><br>On 18 April 2012 17:22, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>@Kivuva<br><br>Since I know Yawe's style, I had indeed not taking the title too seriously<br>and again I do know something about IBM actually being a top 5 software<br>(not even hardware) companies and so there's no way they could be dead.<br><br>But following the reactions, I had now to search and get the original post<br>and sure enough the content was indeed +ve for IBM - but as @PKukubo<br>said,<br>some people would take this subject line and tweet/fb/run with it with<br>unforseen repercussions.<br><br>Moral of the story - some Listers have over time developed more<br>*authority* or *followers* to use the tweeter analogy than others. But<br>with that comes the responsibility that such Listers must weigh the<br>impact<br>of their posts more than others - because many a times their posts are<br>more<br>likely to be taken as gospel truth and perhaps quoted in other forums<br>where<br>the readers there do not know that @Yawe was posting with a pinch of<br>salt....<br><br>walu.<br>nb: I also tweaked his subject line to match his original content<br>--- On *Wed, 4/18/12, Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>>* wrote:<br><br><br>From: Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>><br><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] IBM is dead!<br>To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012, 2:41 PM<br><br>As we approve and condemn the phantom caller, we should also learn to<br>take what Robert says with a little pinch of salt<br><br>On 18/04/2012,<br><a href="mailto:peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a>><<br><a href="mailto:peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a> <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a>>><br>wrote:<br>> Yawe<br>><br>> I really do not see what is negative about IBM launching its cloud<br>service.<br>> I am guessing the title subject of your email was meant to 'catch' the<br>> kictanet audience for a good discourse.<br>><br>> The said 'respected member of this community' should have given his<br>> views<br>> online for a good debate rather than try to dictate to you how you<br>> should<br>> write your posts.<br>><br>> More oil to your elbows I say! Keep on writing!<br>><br>> Peres<br>> Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: robert yawe<br>> <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>><br>> Sender:<br>> kictanet-bounces+peres_were=<a href="mailto:yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:49:58<br>> To: Peres<br>> Were<<a href="mailto:peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=peres_were@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>><br>> Reply-To: robert yawe<br>> <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>><br>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy<br>> Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>><br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IBM is dead!<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kictanet mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>><br>> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>><br><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/peres_were%40yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/peres_were%40yahoo.co.uk</a><br>><br>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br>for<br>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>> regulation. 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