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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The response below is corrective and
informative. So many listers will now read an informed position on the negative
subject line. It is a better approach than personal calling. Personal calling
does not publicly correct a position and that is what this subject heading
needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Such responses as seen below are healthy in keeping
Kictanet active.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gilda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pkukubo@ict.go.ke href="mailto:pkukubo@ict.go.ke">Paul Kukubo</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=godera@skyweb.co.ke
href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke">godera@skyweb.co.ke</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] IBM leads cloud
innovation</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Robert's headline contradicts the articles actual substance and
may send the wrong tone.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>And if as some on this forum would suggest he did it to be sensational
then it is unfortunate that we must be negatively sensationalist or dramatic
for effect. Perhaps a factual sensationalistion would better
deserved. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>What the article details is innovation that makes it possible for
business to deploy cloud better. IBM have been in cloud for a long time.
Indeed our government data centre is an IBM machine and the efforts are now
about how to make that a true cloud offering for government. (a discussion for
another day).
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The facts as I read them in the article are that it will be easier to
provision cloud services via this model that IBM proposes.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Also one interesting fact that comes through is how IBM works with ISVs,
essentially channel partners with specialist expertise, <SPAN
class=Apple-style-span>as part of its delivery of services. Something they and
other multinationals are doing in Kenya and one way for local companies to
leverage international Global R&D companies to create jobs and provide
services.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>I happen to know Rod Atkins quoted in the
article from his visit to Kenya last year and our subsequent visit to IBM. It
is prudent to suggest that we need to stand on the shoulders of these global
companies for our local firms to deepen skills and expertise and dominate
Africa. There are many emerging Kenyan firms that have skilled up to be
channel partners for global firms across various areas. Indeed many of our
largest ICT firms are large because of this reseller model.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span><BR></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>ICT investors
both local and international must get</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span> the right messages about this market. And
sentiment is part of messaging and is a very strong driver of investment
decision making especially in Africa.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>For those who may not read the article (and I suspect some will not
have), it not as it is stated in Robert's headline, about the demise of the
company.<SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Paul Kukubo</DIV>CEO Kenya ICT Board<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR><A
href="http://www.opengovpartnership.org/On">http://www.opengovpartnership.org/On</A>
Wednesday, April 18, 2012, Odhiambo Washington wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi Robert<BR><BR>I personally believe in freedom of
expression. This forum, IMHO, is open to all members to express their
views/opinions by way of proposition, opposition and support of views
expressed - but within the confines of this very platform/forum. Whoever
called you is some coward who is afraid of expressing himself
publicly.<BR><BR>Oh, just tell the person they are burrreeeeeeee kabisa!
:-)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 08:49, robert yawe <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk');"
target=_blank>robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>Hi
Listers,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>I
have just received a phone call from a very respected member of this
community, who shall remain unnamed for purposes of his reputation as in
this case he is acting as a gun for hire. </SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>He
indicated that the post below is negative and I need to have a more
positive approach to my posts.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>Mine
is to present my case and accept judgement in the court of peer opinion,
so I ask is this post negative?</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In
the conversation it was said that most list members avoid contributing for
fear of being flamed mainly by me, to encourage all to participate I
promise not to respond to any post that relates to this issue either now
or in the future.</DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Moderator, in the event that the majority indicate my
post of the successful launch of a cloud solution by IBM is negative
please delete the post and suspend my posting </FONT>privileges<FONT
size=3> for 1 month or any other period deemed appropriate to the
extent of cancelling my membership.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>Regards</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Robert
Yawe<BR>KAY System Technologies Ltd<BR>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<BR>P O Box
55806 Nairobi, 00200<BR>Kenya<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tel:
<A value="+254722511225">+254722511225</A>, <A
value="+254202010696">+254202010696</A><BR>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> robert yawe
<<A>robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A>robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions <<A>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 18 April 2012,
8:19<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [kictanet]
IBM is dead!<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Hi All,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I always said that my short lived mini computer skills will
serve me again soon, the big boys are back in the game and at the front of
the pack is old Blue.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><A
href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/data_centers/232900099"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/data_centers/232900099</A> <BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Cloud is the death knell for the PC Servers and the rebirth of
the mainframe team, it is good to be back home with total and absolute
control.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Regards</SPAN></DIV>
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