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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I fully agree Edwin.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=eonchari@lynxbits.com href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">Edwin
Onchari</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=godera@skyweb.co.ke
href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke">godera@skyweb.co.ke</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:38
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=WordSection1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Listers,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As
Harry has rightly put it, Vision 2030 must be the rallying point for all these
ideas, and all we need to do now is figure out how to structure a follow up
mechanism around these and the role of ICT community in realizing the vision.
Many of our policy makers tend to think that such forums are always there to
negatively criticize them, we have to change this. The new structure should be
portrayed in its “vision & mission” as a supporting and resource rich
platform- one that will only enhance their policy decisions. I for one would
want to see a consistence in staying the course for instance in the
Outsourcing sector, there has been recent indications that this sector is
nearly a lost course, I disagree! Deliberations and action plans on all these
great ideas should not just be relegated to archives for PHD students as one
has rightly put it. We can do it<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Best
Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Edwin
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Joseph Mucheru<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Edwin<BR><B>Cc:</B>
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet
alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Harry/Gilda Et all,<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Following this whole discussion I can help but conclude the
country have moved to a different stage in the development of the ICT sector.
In the past we came together because there were major issues we needed to deal
with. The face 2 face was even important to ensure we framed the issues well
for the stakeholders.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<UL type=disc>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>We have a policy framework in place (an evolving
one)<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>The market is competitive (call rates and internet rates are
low)<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>We are leading in innovations in mobile money globally
(mpesa)<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>iHub and other open community spaces are doing well - look
at the <A
href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/MLab++gets+Sh1+31+billion+financial+boost+/-/1248928/1380044/-/t1p59dz/-/index.html"
target=_blank>mlab</A> Content and other funding (Billions of
shillings)<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>John Waibochi is winning global competitions with virtual
city<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>Cables landed - 4G and evolving<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>etc ....<o:p></o:p>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal>We still have some legacy issues (Telkom and Posta) - But we
know there are qualified people dealing with them amongst
others<o:p></o:p></LI></UL>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Am not saying things are perfect, only that we have
not identified an obvious national cross cutting issue to rally everyone
around. Konza is a great but most people I have talked to are not clear how to
engage (yet they do not want to be left out).<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>May I propose an action for this list. Paint a picture of
Kenya's ICT sector in 2020. By this I mean, what do we all think Kenya's ICT
sector will/can look like in next 10 years.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>This will allow each of us to reflect of what we are doing
today and how we can impact that vision of tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>My view is we have exhausted discussions on setting a
suitable framework and what we need is to move to the next
level<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Harry Delano <<A
href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks
so much Gilda.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Actually,
therein lies the conundrum – How to grow the forum potential that we have? How
to spur on such a huge base as</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">per
Washington’s stats, to a wider participation/engagement for mutual benefit of
all, the nation and beyond. Debate here</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">on
the good days can really, really be rich in content at the same time being
informative & Educative.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Secondly,
as Edwin earlier on stated, on those good days when debate – deliberation
& conclusions is at its best, we</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">unfortunately
do not have mechanisms in place to follow this through with the decision
makers – effectively influencing </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">policy.
How do we address this..? It won’t just be enough to build up an archive for
PhD students out of the Kictanet</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">repositories..
Let these deliberations make a difference that can count in this country.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">That
is Kictanet..</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Harry</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
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<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Gilda Odera
[mailto:<A href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke"
target=_blank>godera@skyweb.co.ke</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 13, 2012
5:26 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Harry,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am not too sure
the sisters can be any more empowered- short of force feeding
really!:)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Those who feel
strongly about something tend to drop a line.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't even think
it is a gender issue, I am sure if you check out the subscriber base you will
find that people are just keeping quiet in the background but picking a
lot.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How to make it more
interactive?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My suspicion is
that many only read one thread and miss out the main thread of the debate and
depending on what a subscriber has responded to, they sometimes "switch off"
and do not read any more mails on that topic- in the process missing out on
some interesting discussions in between.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think those who
have something burning to say will say it anyway. The rest are neither
here nor there in the debate so they see no need to comment nor read all
the threads.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Maybe on each topic
the key Government agencies can be requested to always give an opinion- that
may generate more participation.And the subject line would ensure it
highlights " XXX's position on....".- Just
wondering.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Glad to read PS
Murage's email to Grace- people are indeed reading Kictanet debates.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gilda Odera</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
Message ----- </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=harry@comtelsys.co.ke href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>Harry Delano</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=godera@skyweb.co.ke href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke"
target=_blank>'Gilda Odera'</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday, April
13, 2012 4:38 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> RE: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks
so much Gilda/Grace for your comments. So possibly from your own observation
perhaps, how can we make </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">it
more interactive and engaging, and attract more participation..? Could it be
we need to make the environment a little </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">bit
more conducive/friendlier and accommodative enough? My observation is
the sisters are usually too silent. How</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">do
we empower..?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Secondly
I do note, in its formative years Kictanet actively & professionally (
through representation) engaged a number</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">of
players on the national stage, such us the Ps, CCK, Govt Depts, to shape ICT
policy. There have been positive results</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">from
those engagement sessions (kamkunji). That also seems to have faded off..?
Any idea..?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This
is because I have this strong feeling within, that since Kictanet was formed
with the express objective to engage </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">on
a multi-stakeholder platform, there has never been such a time in its
history as now that we need to engage more, </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">and
do so collectively. For instance, I thought this would be a time we would be
actively engaging on Konza, Cyber</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">security,
just to name a few… or..?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Harry</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
kictanet-bounces+harry=<A href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry"
target=_blank>kictanet-bounces+harry</A>=<A
href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Gilda Odera<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 13, 2012 4:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
<A href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Grace,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I think it
is a cultural thing here. Many people would rather write directly to
you during a debate, as you say below, rather than voice their
opinion openly. I am thinking Kenyans are still very shy and scared of being
seen to "step on another's toes"- just in case their comment may be going
against someone's opinion. Many would rather hide and comment quietly
to the person next to them or the person they are close
to.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I imagine
that is why there are still so many things that remain unchanged in the
country that could be changed if people came out and voiced their
opinions.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> But
the few who write must never feel discouraged as their voices are still
being heard and they are impacting on so many. It takes a few people to
bring about change. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">My thoughts.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Regards,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Gilda</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
Message ----- </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=ggithaiga@hotmail.com href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>Grace Githaiga</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=godera@skyweb.co.ke href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke"
target=_blank>godera@skyweb.co.ke</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday, April
13, 2012 3:36 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> RE: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Spot on
Gilda. However, it may be useful to hear from some lurkers as to why they
are not active participants of the forum (there is not so much from the
sisters :)). Maybe there is something that can be done to allow for more
participation? I have for example received
comments off-list when I have moderated debates, and my question
to those listers is that it would be nice for them to raise the very good
comments here on this forum. Again, the aim is to strengthen the forum and
have it continue to remain relevant. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On another
note, I have seen some of our discussions here quoted authoritatively on
mainstream media, as well as on social
media. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ben Akoh, we
look forward to reading the findings of your
research. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lets keep this
debate live! It is very useful.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Rgds</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">GG</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>If
you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is
all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth
and rule the World!</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: <A
href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke"
target=_blank>godera@skyweb.co.ke</A><BR>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:12:58
+0300<BR>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
KICTAnet 2.0<BR>CC: <A href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>ggithaiga@hotmail.com</A></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Long live
Kictanet- as far as I am concerned.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Listers,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think we
need to remember that just like in any other forum, there are always the
very few who engage in discussions while most do the listening. That
is typical human behaviour, and it is therefore not odd nor
is Kictanet dying because not all subscribed listers are actively
participating.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Personally, I
am quite happy with the forum. And there has been so much to learn
and listen to in the various debates- very
useful.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gilda
Odera</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----
Original Message ----- </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jwalu@yahoo.com href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>Walubengo J</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=godera@skyweb.co.ke href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke"
target=_blank>godera@skyweb.co.ke</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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class=MsoNormal>Ben<BR><BR>This is a powerful testimony. I
do also know of a PhD student whose core dataset is the KICTAnet
archives. And others who got jobs/scholarships arising
from KICTAnet posts. I think these are some of the stories
that we want to hear from the "horses" mouth...<BR><BR>However, on
the flip-side, I think we should also welcome the negative
experiences - or challenges as it were - so that we can improve
going forward.<BR><BR>walu.<BR>nb: ave taken the liberty to tweak
the subject to include KICTAnet 2.0<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 4/13/12,
Ben Akoh <I><<A href="mailto:me@benakoh.com"
target=_blank>me@benakoh.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><BR>From: Ben Akoh <<A
href="mailto:me@benakoh.com"
target=_blank>me@benakoh.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jwalu@yahoo.com</A><BR>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions" <<A href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>><BR>Date:
Friday, April 13, 2012, 2:17 AM<o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<BR><BR>My name is Ben Akoh and I am one of
many lurkers on this list, and on many<BR>others. I am not Kenyan,
I have visited the country several times, I will<BR>be visiting it
in the next month, I love it, its people, and have very<BR>good
friends there.<BR><BR>I participated in one of the earlier public
forums that helped to shape<BR>Kictanet and that fed into the
numerous fiber initiatives to which you and<BR>most of us now
enjoy: directly when we visit the country, and indirectly<BR>when
we interact with good people like yourselves who continue to pave
the<BR>way for how public consultation can shape future growth and
development.<BR><BR>My comments are along three lines:<BR><BR>1.
The benefits of lurkers: Being a lurker is not necessary a bad
thing.<BR>Some of us continue to benefit from this list and learn
good practices<BR>that inform public policy in many other areas.
For instance, the Kictanet<BR>model is replicated across several
national discussion lists in West<BR>Africa and have been
suggested as a useful model for public consultation<BR>on policy
issues. Lurkers benefit through propagate the good
dialogues<BR>that emanate from this group in other forums beyond
yours. See this as<BR>Kenya's export to the knowledge and
information economy.<BR><BR>2. Questioning is good: Seeking ways
through which this forum would become<BR>more relevant is also not
necessarily a bad thing. Questioning leads to<BR>improvement. The
day that every member of this group thinks that the list<BR>has
arrived (group think), is the day it begins to slowly die a
death.<BR>Thus, a constant review, as someone mentioned, against
Kictanet's initial<BR>objectives is a good starting point;
documenting its progress over the<BR>years through careful
research (as another person mentioned) is also<BR>important. But
significant consideration should be given to the medium
of<BR>delivery and how this is relevant to the context of the
times. "The medium<BR>is the message" (Marshall McLuhan). The
medium should thus respond to the<BR>demands of the time.
Considerations should be given to those for whom<BR>policy is
deliberated but who do not have access to deliberate in
its<BR>present form.<BR><BR>3. Kicktanet is one of several model
that works: I am currently finalizing<BR>a toolkit (ebook and
wiki) of several models that have worked for<BR>generating
evidence and for seeking consent of those whom policy
will<BR>affect using case studies of good practice models
implemented across the<BR>world. Kictanet and this
discussion list is featured prominently as one of<BR>them. I hope
to share the outcome of this research once it has
been<BR>published.<BR><BR>In sum, all these go to say
that:<BR><BR>1. The list is useful to both lurkers and active
members.<BR>2. Its influence transcends Kenya and contributes to
shaping policy and<BR>policy consultation beyond its
borders.<BR>3. The medium should respond to the dynamic context of
communication<BR>technologies, and cater to the local context as
well as the growing needs<BR>of its audience - present and future.
It should therefore be shaped<BR>accordingly.<BR><BR>My two
bob.<BR><BR>Ben<BR>A lurker.<BR><BR><BR>On Thu, April 12, 2012
8:59 am, Evans Ikua wrote:<BR>> Now that we have to weigh in, I
think this is an important list that it<BR>> serves its
purposes well. If it falls silent for some time, then it
means<BR>> that everyone is happy, which is not a bad thing.
When its active, it<BR>> means<BR>> that people have issues,
and they have a good place and forum to air their<BR>> concerns
and opinion relating to the industry.<BR>><BR>> As for the
lurkers, they are also good to have. As someone said, one
will<BR>> always speak out when their area of interest is
mentioned and they have an<BR>> opinion to
share.<BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>> Evans<BR>><BR>> On
Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Harry Delano <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Now we talking. Please if you happen to
be on this list, but presently<BR>>> on<BR>>>
“read-only-mode” ( a new phrase I have
learnt),****<BR>>><BR>>> please realize you owe it to
this noble forum, started by noble people,<BR>>> with noble
ideas at least in a way to leave some****<BR>>><BR>>>
mark…****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> So
can we ensure that this forum carries the flag up higher and make
a<BR>>> mark in this land and beyond that we can believe
****<BR>>><BR>>> in. Have looked around, do not see
any other forum with such<BR>>> broad/diverse<BR>>>
membership.****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> Let’s keep the ideas coming
in..****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
Harry****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
*From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR>>>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry"
target=_blank>kictanet-bounces+harry</A>=<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>]
*On<BR>>> Behalf Of *Harry Hare<BR>>> *Sent:*
Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:17 PM<BR>>><BR>>> *To:* <A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A><BR>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet
ICT Policy Discussions<BR>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the<BR>>>
dustbin...!****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> Hey all, there is a strategy document
floating somewhere. I think this<BR>>> could be a good place
to start – see what has been achieved, what fell<BR>>>
by<BR>>> the way side, identify what is still relevant, plug
in new ideas and<BR>>> strengthen the network. KICTANet
should never be allowed to
"kick".****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Harry
Hare****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
Director****<BR>>><BR>>> African eDevelopment Resource
Centre****<BR>>><BR>>> PO Box 49475
00100****<BR>>><BR>>> Nairobi,
Kenya****<BR>>><BR>>> Tel <A
href="tel:%2B254%2020%204041646" target=_blank>+254 20
4041646</A>****<BR>>><BR>>> Cel <A
href="tel:%2B254%20725%20650044" target=_blank>+254 725
650044</A>****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> *From:
*Brian Munyao Longwe <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=blongwe%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>blongwe@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> *Date: *Thu,
12 Apr 2012 15:57:45 +0300<BR>>> *To: *Harry Hare <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40africanedevelopment.org"
target=_blank>harry@africanedevelopment.org</A>><BR>>>
*Cc: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>><BR>>>
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the<BR>>> dustbin...!****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> If we go back to early discussions
about the multi-stakeholder network<BR>>> known as KICTAnet
I recall there being a distinction between the mailing<BR>>>
list participants, and those stakeholders who would actively
engage in<BR>>> KICTAnet
"activities".****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> My take is that since there have been
no "activities" as such - the<BR>>> feeling is that KICTAnet
has "kicked" to borrow a phrase from<BR>>>
@Harry.****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
I remember there used to be monthly face-to-face meetings which
followed<BR>>> a<BR>>> particular topic or theme of
interest and served as an opportunity for<BR>>> participants
from the various networks to meet within the context of
the<BR>>> "network of networks". At the time there was
program funding from donor<BR>>> to<BR>>> cover costs
of those meetings, this has presumably, run out. Which
leads<BR>>> me<BR>>> to ask, can we mobilise funds
locally? At least for these gatherings? As<BR>>> they will
give a greater element of traction to the organization
while<BR>>> ensuring that it continues to remain relevant
within the sector.<BR>>> Especially<BR>>> as the
melting pot for policy debate.****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> Best
regards,****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
Brian****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> On
Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Walubengo J <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jwalu@yahoo.com</A>><BR>>>
wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>> Joe,<BR>>><BR>>>
Currently listed number is 690 members from diverse backgrounds
of<BR>>> Media,<BR>>> Academia, Govt, Regulator,
Telcos(fixed, mobile, wireless). But as you<BR>>>
noted not everyone is active -80% are often in read-only
mode. That is<BR>>> one<BR>>> reason I thought
we needed new thinking and new
approaches...<BR>>><BR>>>
walu.<BR>>><BR>>> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph Mucheru
<<A href="http://mc/compose?to=mucheru%40google.com"
target=_blank>mucheru@google.com</A>>*
wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Joseph
Mucheru <<A href="http://mc/compose?to=mucheru%40google.com"
target=_blank>mucheru@google.com</A>>****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the<BR>>> dustbin...!<BR>>> To: <A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jwalu@yahoo.com</A><BR>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions"<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>>****<BR>>><BR>>>
Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53
PM****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> I am
certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the
latest<BR>>> collaboration technologies "Google<BR>>>
Hangouts<<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw</A>>"<BR>>>
I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need
to<BR>>> have a<BR>>> representative forum that allows
for that to take place. @Brian you know<BR>>> many
participant on this list are in read only
mode.****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
@Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of
people<BR>>> actively subscribed to the list? Not the names
but the number. This will<BR>>> be<BR>>> a good place
to start. Dealing with facts and not guess
work.****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
Thanks****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
Joe****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> On
Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau<BR>>>
<<A href="http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>solo.mburu@gmail.com</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu@gmail.com</A>>><BR>>>
wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk"
target=_blank>robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A>>><BR>>>
wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>>
Harry,****<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>>
We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation
hate<BR>>> records and prefer platforms like twitter and
facebook.****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> The responsibility for keeping the
forum active remains with those over<BR>>> 35<BR>>>
year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the
younger<BR>>> crowd.***<BR>>>
*<BR>>><BR>>> ** **<BR>>><BR>>> uuummmmm
is there a way out of this
loop.^C****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> I'm below 35, but
enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and<BR>>>
twitter<BR>>> ****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>> Regards
****<BR>>><BR>>> ****<BR>>><BR>>>
Robert Yawe<BR>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd<BR>>>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<BR>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
00200<BR>>> Kenya****<BR>>><BR>>> Tel: <A
href="tel:%2B254722511225" target=_blank>+254722511225</A>
begin_of_the_skype_highlighting <A
href="tel:%2B254722511225"
target=_blank>+254722511225</A> end_of_the_skype_highlighting,
<A href="tel:%2B254202010696" target=_blank>+254202010696</A>
begin_of_the_skype_highlighting <A
href="tel:%2B254202010696"
target=_blank>+254202010696</A> end_of_the_skype_highlighting****<BR>>>
------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> *From:*
Harry Delano<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A>><BR>>>
><BR>>> *To:* <A
href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk"
target=_blank>robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A><BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012,
13:55****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> *Subject:* Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the<BR>>>
dustbin...!****<BR>>><BR>>> **
**<BR>>><BR>>>
Ara..!****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Not many people seriously want to
rejuvenate this forum, as per<BR>>> Brian/Walubengo’s
suggestion…?****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a
good case study one day for some<BR>>> thesis student. Whose
research titles among others:-****<BR>>><BR>>> ·
“How-to-kill a good forum, kick it
into the dustbin and<BR>>> leave<BR>>> it for the
dead” ****<BR>>><BR>>> ·
“The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a
myriad of many<BR>>> ICT<BR>>> forums in Kenya, the
major one being….****<BR>>><BR>>> ·
“How-not-to build structural resilience
and offer strategic<BR>>> leadership”. Why the big forum
went M.I.A, and petered out..****<BR>>><BR>>> ·
And the final one perhaps, “ Do
not repeat the mistakes<BR>>> listed<BR>>> above, time
for a RESET..”!****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Certainly, unless otherwise – we
might be headed for such a case<BR>>> study.<BR>>> Not
sure if I should patent the titles, just in
case..!****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>>
Harry****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> ****<BR>>><BR>>>
*From:*<BR>>> kictanet-bounces+harry=<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>>[mailto:<BR>>>
kictanet-bounces+harry <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry</A>>=<BR>>>
<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>>]<BR>>>
*On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe<BR>>> *Sent:* Thursday,
April 12, 2012 12:50 AM<BR>>> *To:* <A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A>><BR>>>
*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR>>> *Subject:* Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the<BR>>>
dustbin...!****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> I think Walu is on the right track.
Every organisation for-profit or<BR>>> not,<BR>>> has
to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and
thrust<BR>>> periodically or risk falling into the
shadows.****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Is it time for KICTAnet to do
so?****<BR>>><BR>>> ****<BR>>><BR>>>
As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has
come.****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> My 2
shillings,****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> Brian****<BR>>><BR>>> On
Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jwalu@yahoo.com</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com</A>>><BR>>>
wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>> @Wash,<BR>>><BR>>>
Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs
to<BR>>> re-juvinate<BR>>> and re-energize. Bring in
new blood and thinking. What do we want from<BR>>> KICTAnet,
8yrs later? What management structures, membership
structures,<BR>>> operational, financial structures do we
want to see going forward?<BR>>><BR>>> Perhaps a
brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have
been<BR>>> the<BR>>> moderator since inception and
maybe someone else can do a better job and<BR>>>
we<BR>>> just have not asked them to come forth. Think about
it - I could have<BR>>> run<BR>>> out of ideas or some
younger dot.commer <<A href="http://dot.com"
target=_blank>http://dot.com</A>> may just be<BR>>>
sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never
imagined...<BR>>><BR>>> just my
2pings.<BR>>><BR>>> walu.<BR>>><BR>>> ---
On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>odhiambo@gmail.com</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
>* wrote:****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From:
Odhiambo Washington<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>odhiambo@gmail.com</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
><BR>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin,
or kicked into the<BR>>> dustbin...!<BR>>> To: <A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jwalu@yahoo.com</A> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com</A>><BR>>>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>><BR>>>
><BR>>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50
PM****<BR>>><BR>>>
****<BR>>><BR>>> ****<BR>>><BR>>> On
Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano<BR>>> <<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
target=_blank>harry@comtelsys.co.ke</A><<A
href="http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke"
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until I see some response on whether we<BR>>>
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****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> You mean the post-Easter
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