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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Almost also felt so. In fact I suggest we asap get a kicktanet handle on twitter, plus get it on facebook like<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>yesterday. Most folks you can now find them here.. I suppose you/Walu are right on this aspect, - that the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>new kids on the block might find how we conduct things here, a bit old school to an extent..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I suppose if am any right, Kicktanet is supposed to be engagement, engagement and more engagement..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Other ideas..? Sisters, mlihama…?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Harry,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation hate records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over 35 year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Regards <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke><br><b>To:</b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk <br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1979826328><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ara..!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:39.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave it for the dead” </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:39.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT forums in Kenya, the major one being….</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:39.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:39.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes listed above, time for a RESET..”!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study. Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Munyao Longwe<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or not, has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and thrust periodically or risk falling into the shadows.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>My 2 shillings,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>@Wash,<br><br>Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to re-juvinate<br>and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures, operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?<br><br>Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been the moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job and we just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could have run out of ideas or some younger <a href="http://dot.com" target="_blank">dot.commer</a> may just be sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...<br><br>just my 2pings.<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <i><<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>From: Odhiambo Washington <<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!<br>To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we might just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??<br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>Best regards,<br>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>Nairobi,KE<br>+254733744121/+254722743223<br>_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <br>I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.<br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#007F00'><img border=0 width=35 height=33 id="yiv1979826328_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01CD195F.7C11A0D0">Please consider the environment before printing this email. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a href="http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com</a><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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