<div>I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the latest collaboration technologies "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw">Google Hangouts</a>" I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need to have a representative forum that allows for that to take place. @Brian you know many participant on this list are in read only mode.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of people actively subscribed to the list? Not the names but the number. This will be a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Joe</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"><span>Harry,</span></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span><br></span></div><div><span><font size="3">We are ageing, email is loosing is </font>lustre and the new generation hate records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.</span></div><div><span><font size="3"><br>
</font></span></div><div><span><font size="3">The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over 35 year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.</font></span></div><div><span><font size="3"><br>
</font></span></div><div><span><font size="3">uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C</font></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and twitter<br>
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<div><span><font size="3"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font size="3">Regards </font></span></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"> </div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Harry Delano <<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <br>
<div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <br> </div>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55<div><div><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!<br>
</div></div></font> </div><div><div> <br><div><div><div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">Ara..!</span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-</span></div><div style="margin-left:39.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">“How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave it for the dead” </span></div>
<div style="margin-left:39.0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">“The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT forums in Kenya, the major one being….</span></div>
<div style="margin-left:39.0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">“How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..</span></div>
<div style="margin-left:39.0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes listed above, time for a RESET..”!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study. Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif">Harry</span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:sans-serif"> </span></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"> kictanet-bounces+harry=<a href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+harry</a>=<a href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Munyao Longwe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Kictanet
alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!</span></div></div><div> </div><div>I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or not, has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and thrust periodically or risk falling into the shadows.</div>
<div><div> </div></div><div><div>Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?</div></div><div><div> </div></div><div><div>As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.</div></div><div><div> </div></div><div>
<div>My 2 shillings,</div></div><div><div> </div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Brian</div><div><div>On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" valign="top"><div>@Wash,<br><br>Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to re-juvinate<br>and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures, operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?<br>
<br>Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been the moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job and we just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could have run out of ideas or some younger <a rel="nofollow" href="http://dot.com" target="_blank">dot.commer</a> may just be sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...<br>
<br>just my 2pings.<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <i><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:</div><div><br>From: Odhiambo Washington <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!<br>To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM</div><div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </div><div><div>On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:</div>
<div><div><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we might just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!</span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888"> </span><span style="color:#888888"></span></div>
</div></div><div><div><br>You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??<br> </div></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>-- <br>Best regards,<br>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>Nairobi,KE<br><a rel="nofollow">+254733744121</a>/<a rel="nofollow">+254722743223</a><br>
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