Thanks for the headsup. but,<br><br>To clarify: for a clueful enterprise customer, my advise is to go get PI space when dealing with IPv6 - current afrinic policy (<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2004-v6-001.htm">http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2004-v6-001.htm</a>) doesn't allow endusers to get an initial allocation but thats something we can bring up at the next afrinic.<br>
<br>RIPE is very clear:<br>"The RIPE NCC will assign the prefix directly to the End User
organisations upon a request properly submitted to the RIPE NCC, either <b>
directly </b>or through a<b> sponsoring LIR</b>." <a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-545#IPv6_PI_Assignments">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-545#IPv6_PI_Assignments</a><br><br>The LIR could traditionally request PI addresses for an End User - we did it for IPv4. Yes most LIR's will charge to co-ordinate this. IPv6 will however bring interesting challenges. Either way it wont be wise to be tied to an ISP's addresses, on the other hand I cant believe ISP's are not taking advantage of this address space to 'lock in' customers.<br>
<br>Gitau<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:04 AM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 3/20/12, John Gitau <<a href="mailto:jgitau@gmail.com">jgitau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> No, I think one day we'll wake up and the rest of the world will have moved<br>
> on. And yes at that point the demand for IPv6 consultants will be quite high<br>
> and lucrative, so yay!.Today there is no reason for guys in Asia not to just<br>
> come up with apps and devices that run on ipv6. An area that's often<br>
> overlooked is M2M communication as an example.<br>
><br>
> Imagine an iphone4s-advanced that does only IPv6 made for the Asian market.<br>
> Now also imagine your CEO goes there, buys it and wants it to work here.<br>
> That's exactly what happened with blackberry. Long before its launch here,<br>
> pressure came from top shot CEO's. If KQ and equity and all the big SP<br>
> customers insisted They want IPv6, we'll get IPv6, create demand.<br>
><br>
> While we (africa) may still have Ipv4, not getting ready means we shall be<br>
> the prime market for nat and other 'old school' translation devices.<br>
> Remember internet is global, and its protocols have no respect for national<br>
> boundaries. The fact is most vendors would like it if you stuck at v4, they<br>
> will make more money from you later. Heck i will make more from you later.<br>
> We will pay for our laziness. That's why I'm not worried. Either way it will<br>
> work out.<br>
><br>
> * @wash no lir's won't withdraw v4, lir's are isp's, they cant do that. They<br>
> should however Ensure everyone gets an ipv6 allocation. Infact call your ISP<br>
> today and ask for ipv6 PI space.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>FYI "PI space" comes from the RIR only, you can't get it from your<br>
Local Internet Registry (ISP). �You can get an assignment (or<br>
sub-allocation) from your LIR.<br>
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--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
route indicates how we get there." �Jon Postel<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>**Gitau<br>