>From all the arguments being fronted , there is a clear role for every stakeholder so let us stand up and be counted :-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Walu,<br>
><br>
> What was the mandate of the Kenyan IPv6 Task Force? I hope it's not just<br>
> another boardroom Task Force.<br>
><br>
> I saw the following on FaceBook yesterday:<br>
> "When Asia trained engineers Africa trained experts in debate. Can't fix<br>
> roads by simply organizing stakeholder consultations."It can be further<br>
> said that we can't fix IPv6 by simply appointing Task Forces.<br>
<br>
</div>Tell that to the Koreans and Japanese, whose TFs have pushed them to<br>
to fore in v6 usage...a decade ago!<br>
<br>
In addition, AFNOG, et. al., have been training African engineers on<br>
v6 since 2005.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> The adoption of IPv6 should be driven, first by need, then by the entities<br>
> responsible for assigning the IPs. I think it should be that simple. I<br>
> still don't see why it needed a Task Force.<br>
<br>
</div>Because as yet there is no "perceived need".<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> Let me look at this from the simplest terms:<br>
><br>
> I think the pace of adoption does not have to be driven by pressure from<br>
> other sides of the planet, but by the RIRs,<br>
<br>
</div>The RIRs HAVE been leading on this for over a decade.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
but still based on need. An RIR<br>
> may shout from the rooftops that they have depleted their IPv4 space, but<br>
> "allocation" and "assignment" are two different things, right?<br>
<br>
</div>No RIR has yet exhausted their IP4v space completely.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> They may be over with their allocation, while the entities allocated those<br>
> IPs haven't assigned all of them, and are still comfortable. Now, does the<br>
> RIR start forcing the entities (mostly ISPs) to start using their IPv6<br>
> allocations? No.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>As co-chair of the AfriNIC Policy Working Group, I would be happy to<br>
see you put forth a proposal to encourage v6 usage. � However, I don't<br>
see how "forcing" folks would work. �What "carrots" or "sticks" would<br>
you suggest?<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
route indicates how we get there." �Jon Postel<br>
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