Thanks Walu and Wash,<div><br></div><div>Indeed we agreed as ISOC_Ke to work with all stakeholders including the taskforce we dont intend to re-invent the wheel, to set the ball rolling we are planning to begin IpV6 training programs under Pauls leadership in June, we will also have local celebrations on the same in June and we look forwad to working with local and regional organisations such as Afrinic and we look forwad to having you on board Walu as the Afrinic representative in the region. Wash i agree with the sentiments you are raising and Afrinic has very interesting presentations that demistify IpV6, we look forwad to wroking with them to clarify all this issues at the end of the day lets not remain behind as Walu says and let the people decide which way they want to go. Time is ripe for IPv6.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Walu,<br><br>What was the mandate of the Kenyan IPv6 Task Force? I hope it's not just another boardroom Task Force.<br>
<br>I saw the following on FaceBook yesterday:<br><h6 style="font-weight:normal">
<font><span>"When Asia trained engineers Africa trained experts in debate. Can't fix roads by simply organizing stakeholder consultations."</span></font></h6>It can be further said that we can't fix IPv6 by simply appointing Task Forces. Let me explain why.<br>
The adoption of IPv6 should be driven, first by need, then by the entities responsible for assigning the IPs. I think it should be that simple. I still don't see why it needed a Task Force.<br><br>Let me look at this from the simplest terms:<br>
<br>I think the pace of adoption does not have to be driven by pressure from other sides of the planet, but by the RIRs, but still based on need. An RIR may shout from the rooftops that they have depleted their IPv4 space, but "allocation" and "assignment" are two different things, right?<br>
They may be over with their allocation, while the entities allocated those IPs haven't assigned all of them, and are still comfortable. Now, does the RIR start forcing the entities (mostly ISPs) to start using their IPv6 allocations? No.<br>
<br>Time will come when the IPv6 space will start being utilized.<br><br>I don't see how the deployment of IPv6 makes us "stay ahead"of anyone though. It's just an IP address. Staying ahead depends on economic factors, no?<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:28, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top">Paul/Barrack,<br><br>I agree, dismal performance.� And to imagine the rest of East Africa expects us to be leading on this front, it is truly a shameful performance.� And that reminds me, the PS Ndemo did inaugurated the Kenyan IPv6 Task force 2yrs ago - of which I am a member but I will not name the others for security reasons <img><br>
<br>Perhaps, there could be some synergy with the ISOC_Ke guys on this to make sure Kenya stays in the forefront of promoting IPv6 usage.<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 3/19/12, Barrack Otieno <i><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>From: Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in
Kenya<br>To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 12:16 PM<div><div><br><br><div>Thanks Paul.<div><br></div><div>Looking forwad to the ISOC_ke �IP V6 program under your leadership.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards<br><br><div>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Paul M <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=paulitrix@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulitrix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><br clear="all"><div>Take a look at this page. Gives revealing but dismal statistics over the state of IPv6 in Kenya.�</div>
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