<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Dr. Ndemo, All<br><br>I agree it is a very thin line that we have to strive to balance on. ICT is and should be cross cutting into socio-economic and political spheres. But the way I see it is for the list is as follows:<br><br>1. Pure Politcs:<br>"Why its wrong for Kenya to Pacify Bashir": then followed by discussions for and against the move to pacify Bashir. Many vibrant lists exist for this type of conversations e.g http://www.mashada.com/<br><br>2. ICTs and Politics<br>"How Media is (mis?)leading the Masses in the Bashir Case": then followed by discussions on how this could be propagated or curtailed using new media?(FB, Twitter, etc). Obviously this is the "boring" option but it is what KICTAnet is/was about ref: http://www.kictanet.or.ke/<br><br>I could be wrong but option 2 is they way I have always viewed this list. Another
example.<br><br>1. Pure Ranting.<br>"No Fuel, No Electricity, No Water". Again, many lists exists elsewhere to ventilate on this. Indeed I have quite ventilated on this on my twitter handle @jwalu. But have a look at point 2 below<br><br>2. ICTS and Fuel, Electricity, Water, -What ICT tools exists to prevent persistent shortages in Fuel, Power, Water etc? Obviously this again is probably the "boring" option but closer to the KICTAnet mission http://www.kictanet.or.ke/<br><br>But that was the thinking 8yrs ago, maybe what Listers are saying is that they want this to change and hey, I cannot stop that since it is about democracy and what the majority want. But I can remind you that this list is both local and international and unless contributors seek to bring out the ICT connection, quite a bit of Listers are likely to seek a way out.<br><br>walu.<br> <br><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/7/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke
<i><bitange@jambo.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why It's Wrong For Kenya To Try Pac ifying Angry Bashir-offtopic?<br>To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 10:41 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Walubengo,<br>Yesterday we spent a great deal of time discussing how technology will impact governance in the days a head. We heard arguments from leading social scientists, economists, politicians and journalists.<br><br>Then in my break I read your post on refocusing our discussions around IT issues. I have spent the night reflecting on this and now I am a bit confused. What do we mean
when we say ICT is cross cutting? What is content in ICT terms? Can we use ICT as a tool for development? And what is development?<br><br><br>Ndemo.<br><br><br><br>Sent from my BlackBerry®<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a ymailto="mailto:jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate" href="/mc/compose?to=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate">jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate</a>: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 07:23:49 <br>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why It's Wrong For Kenya To Try Pac ifying
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