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    Dear Andrea  and all<br>
    <br>
    We are very pleased to announce that Mugo Kibati will join the list
    as a guest discussant for a couple of days to discuss and respond to
    the issues raised regarding our vision 2030. Thanks to P.S Ndemo for
    making this happen. <br>
    <br>
    It would be great if we could list a number of
    issues/questions/ideas we would like to put forward.<br>
    <br>
    Grace Githaiga will moderate the discussions<br>
    <br>
    Thank you<br>
    <br>
    Best<br>
    <br>
    Alice<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAFaobUD0Tb_TmEF4ziLyvMJOqSwvHjrvuby0eCiM7NbGd4ZGmQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Tell me about it. Second day of the week, second power
      cut, KPLC know of nothing - ideal conditions for a company that
      publishes online content. <br>
      <br>
      I liked Mugo Kibati's quote in the FT - if you can't get power and
      sanitation to a plot, then Vision 2030 won't happen. <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 6 December 2011 14:27, Harry Delano <span
          dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hey
                  Andrea,</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">
                <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Agreed,
                  though it’s clear some issues cannot be cut off from
                  ICT, like the persistent blackouts.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
                </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It’s
                  a joke that flies smack in the face of the stated
                  visions, which could as well be mere pipe </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">dreams
                  if we are not serious in building efficiencies that
                  should get us to such destinations..</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We
                  very fast need to de-monopolize energy provision in
                  this country. Does anyone remember</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“Jambonet”…?</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harry</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                    Andrea Bohnstedt [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com"
                      target="_blank">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>]
                    <br>
                  </span></p>
                <div class="im"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 06, 2011
                  1:49 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
                </div>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] RE: [kictanet] Why It's
                Wrong For Kenya To Try Pac ifying Angry Bashir</div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
                    Go back to discussing ICT issues on the ICT list? :)
                  </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 6 December 2011 13:44, Harry
                      Delano <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
                        target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>>
                      wrote:</p>
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                      What is the way forward....?<br>
                      <br>
                      Harry<br>
                      <br>
                      -----Original Message-----<br>
                      From: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a
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                      On<br>
                      Behalf Of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
                        target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>
                      Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:49 AM<br>
                      To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
                        target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
                      Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
                      Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why It's Wrong For Kenya
                      To Try Pac ifying Angry<br>
                      Bashir<br>
                      <br>
                      Grace,<br>
                      Our media too needs to set the agenda right.  Much
                      of what David wrote was<br>
                      heavily influenced from what he read in foreign
                      media.  Earlier I made a<br>
                      comparison between what happened in Daffur and in
                      Congo.  In 2003 some 5<br>
                      million people died in the Congo.  You may recall
                      the Banyamulenge<br>
                      atrocities inside Congo but in spite the fact that
                      there were indictable<br>
                      people by ICC, the issue was brushed under the
                      carpet.<br>
                      <br>
                      Congo is a mineral rich country with a government
                      that hadly know what is<br>
                      going on in their country.  Some people want it
                      that way.  Below see a quote<br>
                      from the Financial Times and see why I made that
                      conclusion.<br>
                      <br>
                      "Given the muted response to the evolving fiasco
                      in Congo, there is<br>
                      much less international appetite for outrage, or
                      even for an accurate<br>
                      count. Western countries are less enchanted with
                      Mr Kabila than they<br>
                      were in 2006, when he won a UN-supervised
                      election, promising to bring<br>
                      peace and economic recovery. He has done neither.<br>
                      <br>
                      But unlike Mr Ouattara in Ivory Coast, Mr
                      Tshisekedi does not enjoy<br>
                      significant backing from anyone outside the Congo.<br>
                      <br>
                      He is his own man. That is one reason a large
                      number of Congolese<br>
                      persist in believing that he might turn things
                      round. At 78, he is<br>
                      representative of a generation of opposition
                      leaders who dedicated<br>
                      decades to the fight against dictatorship. Most,
                      including Mr Gbagbo<br>
                      have proved disastrous in government."<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      You cannot be your own man in Africa if you need
                      the support of Western<br>
                      countries.  This is a worrying statement and
                      confirms that our media has<br>
                      largely failed in setting the African agenda and
                      begin to influence the rest<br>
                      of the world.<br>
                      <br>
                      Virtually all mineral rich African countries are
                      at war from the west to<br>
                      central and eastern Africa.  Is is a coincident?<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Ndemo.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>
                      <br>
                      -----Original Message-----<br>
                      From: Grace Githaiga <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      5 Dec 2011 17:30:12<br>
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                      Subject: [kictanet] Why It's Wrong For Kenya To
                      Try Pac<br>
                       ifying Angry Bashir<br>
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