<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">forgive my concern - are we still talking ICTs or elected to go slightly off-tangent? I could be alone but lately I have been finding less and less of ICT threads popping up...<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 11/18/11, lordmwesh <i><lordmwesh@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Occupy NYC<br>To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 10:10 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Anybody with a grasp of history would know that USA is a police state.<br>Violent and inhuman than most of the darkest parts of Africa.<br><br>Voting will note change anything on corporate greed, and poor<br>policies.
But civil movements will do. This has been happening all<br>over the world.<br><br>Any African who thinks Americans are better than Africans need first<br>to decolonise the mind before the debate can become productive.<br><br>--lordmwesh<br><br>On 18/11/2011, waudo siganga <<a ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" href="/mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br>> You have stated that one of your driving reasons for joining the<br>> occupy group in Ashville (sorry, first time to hear of the place)<br>> is because you are affected by "US government's actions in<br>> Somalia". What is it you would like for Somalia? Do you think you<br>> will be able to change this US government through demos rather<br>> than waiting for the elections next year? I also do not agree<br>> with you about the way people are treated in the US vis-a-vis<br>> Kenya. Hardly a generation ago police were setting
dogs on<br>> demonstrators in Birmingham, AL, and other cities; people<br>> fighting for civil rights. A short while ago Rodney King was<br>> beaten to pulp and even now there are many instances of police<br>> beatings. A few days ago I was in New York and saw on the TV a<br>> police officer use a Taser gun on a motorist for driving 5 miles<br>> above the speed limit.<br>><br>><br>> On Friday, November 18, 2011 11:25 AM, "Crystal Watley Kigoni"<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org" href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> The banks and Wall Street are only able to exist in their<br>> current form because of the poor policies and government<br>> legislation. The government needs to change its laws in<br>> regards to what these institutions are allowed to do. It
is a<br>> critical part of a democracy that the people speak for change<br>> when change is required.<br>> And it is a privilege to create change under the government of<br>> the president from Siaya. You see in America they may spray<br>> people with pepper gas, and maybe even rubber bullets (which<br>> still hurt), but they don't shoot us in the streets like they<br>> may in Kenya.<br>><br>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, waudo siganga<br>> <[1]<a ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" href="/mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> you mean you want to change the government of our son from<br>> Kogelo?! I thought this occupy business was about banks and wall<br>> street?<br>> waudo<br>><br>> On Friday, November 18, 2011 10:01 AM,
"Crystal Watley Kigoni"<br>> <[2]<a ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org" href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> My lovely friends in Kenya,<br>> I came back to the US to join Occupy in my hometown of Asheville,<br>> NC to raise awareness of what the global economy does to Africa<br>> and Kenya in particular and how the US government's actions in<br>> Somalia are affecting us. Please see the attached infographics to<br>> give you some clue as to why me, and the rest of Occupy want<br>> change in America. It is our democratic right to change our<br>> government when required. And right now, for the sake of the<br>> world, it is required.<br>> Blessings,<br>> Crystal<br>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:54 AM, robert yawe<br>> <[3]<a ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"
href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> What started in Tunisia went across to Egypt, made a short stop<br>> in Britain, made a few more stops has now taken a transatlantic<br>> cable across to the USA.<br>><br>> You can follow the proceedings<br>> on [4]<a href="http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc" target="_blank">http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc</a>, there is<br>> a suspicion from the demonstrators that mobile signal are<br>> being jammed. the WiFi signals will be next then finally the<br>> sites streaming the footage.<br>><br>> Regards<br>><br>> When you live in a glass house don't throw stones<br>><br>> Robert Yawe<br>> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>> Kenya<br>><br>> Tel: [5]+254722511225,
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target="_blank">http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206</a><br>> 14. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni</a><br>> 15. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro</a><br>> 16. mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> 17. <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>> 18.<br>> <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.com"
target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.com</a><br>> 19. mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org" href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a><br>> 20. <a href="http://www.voicesofafrica.org/" target="_blank">http://www.voicesofafrica.org/</a><br>> 21.<br>> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599</a><br>> 22.<br>> <a href="http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206" target="_blank">http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206</a><br>> 23. <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni</a><br>> 24. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro</a><br>><br><br><br>-- <br>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva<br>For<br>Business Development<br>Transworld Computer Channels<br>Cel: 0722402248<br>twitter.com/lordmwesh<br>transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing<br>kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a
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