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Walu - how do you get foreigners to come and invest in the ICT or any other sector when some people are claiming police are shooting people in the streets of Nairobi? You have an option to keep quiet ("because it is not ICT"), or to refute.</div>
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On Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:39 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:</div>
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forgive my concern - are we still talking ICTs or elected to go slightly off-tangent? I could be alone but lately I have been finding less and less of ICT threads popping up...<br />
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walu.<br />
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--- On <span style="font-weight: bold">Fri, 11/18/11, lordmwesh <span style="font-style: italic"><lordmwesh@gmail.com></span></span> wrote:<br />
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From: lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com><br />
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Occupy NYC<br />
To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br />
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br />
Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 10:10 PM<br />
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Anybody with a grasp of history would know that USA is a police state.<br />
Violent and inhuman than most of the darkest parts of Africa.<br />
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Voting will note change anything on corporate greed, and poor<br />
policies. But civil movements will do. This has been happening all<br />
over the world.<br />
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Any African who thinks Americans are better than Africans need first<br />
to decolonise the mind before the debate can become productive.<br />
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--lordmwesh<br />
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On 18/11/2011, waudo siganga <<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com" defang_ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br />
> You have stated that one of your driving reasons for joining the<br />
> occupy group in Ashville (sorry, first time to hear of the place)<br />
> is because you are affected by "US government's actions in<br />
> Somalia". What is it you would like for Somalia? Do you think you<br />
> will be able to change this US government through demos rather<br />
> than waiting for the elections next year? I also do not agree<br />
> with you about the way people are treated in the US vis-a-vis<br />
> Kenya. Hardly a generation ago police were setting dogs on<br />
> demonstrators in Birmingham, AL, and other cities; people<br />
> fighting for civil rights. A short while ago Rodney King was<br />
> beaten to pulp and even now there are many instances of police<br />
> beatings. A few days ago I was in New York and saw on the TV a<br />
> police officer use a Taser gun on a motorist for driving 5 miles<br />
> above the speed limit.<br />
><br />
><br />
> On Friday, November 18, 2011 11:25 AM, "Crystal Watley Kigoni"<br />
> <<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org" defang_ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a>> wrote:<br />
><br />
> The banks and Wall Street are only able to exist in their<br />
> current form because of the poor policies and government<br />
> legislation. The government needs to change its laws in<br />
> regards to what these institutions are allowed to do. It is a<br />
> critical part of a democracy that the people speak for change<br />
> when change is required.<br />
> And it is a privilege to create change under the government of<br />
> the president from Siaya. You see in America they may spray<br />
> people with pepper gas, and maybe even rubber bullets (which<br />
> still hurt), but they don't shoot us in the streets like they<br />
> may in Kenya.<br />
><br />
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, waudo siganga<br />
> <[1]<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com" defang_ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br />
><br />
> you mean you want to change the government of our son from<br />
> Kogelo?! I thought this occupy business was about banks and wall<br />
> street?<br />
> waudo<br />
><br />
> On Friday, November 18, 2011 10:01 AM, "Crystal Watley Kigoni"<br />
> <[2]<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org" defang_ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a>> wrote:<br />
><br />
><br />
> My lovely friends in Kenya,<br />
> I came back to the US to join Occupy in my hometown of Asheville,<br />
> NC to raise awareness of what the global economy does to Africa<br />
> and Kenya in particular and how the US government's actions in<br />
> Somalia are affecting us. Please see the attached infographics to<br />
> give you some clue as to why me, and the rest of Occupy want<br />
> change in America. It is our democratic right to change our<br />
> government when required. And right now, for the sake of the<br />
> world, it is required.<br />
> Blessings,<br />
> Crystal<br />
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:54 AM, robert yawe<br />
> <[3]<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" defang_ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br />
><br />
> Hi,<br />
><br />
> What started in Tunisia went across to Egypt, made a short stop<br />
> in Britain, made a few more stops has now taken a transatlantic<br />
> cable across to the USA.<br />
><br />
> You can follow the proceedings<br />
> on [4]<a href="http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc" target="_blank">http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc</a>, there is<br />
> a suspicion from the demonstrators that mobile signal are<br />
> being jammed. the WiFi signals will be next then finally the<br />
> sites streaming the footage.<br />
><br />
> Regards<br />
><br />
> When you live in a glass house don't throw stones<br />
><br />
> Robert Yawe<br />
> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br />
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br />
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> 1. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com" defang_ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a><br />
> 2. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org" defang_ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a><br />
> 3. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" defang_ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br />
> 4. <a href="http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc" target="_blank">http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc</a><br />
> 5. tel:%2B254722511225<br />
> 6. tel:%2B254202010696<br />
> 7. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br />
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> 9.<br />
> <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafrica.org" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafrica.org</a><br />
> 10. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org" defang_ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a><br />
> 11. <a href="http://www.voicesofafrica.org/" target="_blank">http://www.voicesofafrica.org/</a><br />
> 12.<br />
> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599</a><br />
> 13.<br />
> <a href="http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206" target="_blank">http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206</a><br />
> 14. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni</a><br />
> 15. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro</a><br />
> 16. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br />
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> 18.<br />
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> 19. mailto:<a defang_href="/mc/compose?to=crystal@voicesofafrica.org" defang_ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a><br />
> 20. <a href="http://www.voicesofafrica.org/" target="_blank">http://www.voicesofafrica.org/</a><br />
> 21.<br />
> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_103722386364001&ap=1#%21/group.php?gid=139035902779599</a><br />
> 22.<br />
> <a href="http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206" target="_blank">http://www.causes.com/causes/102634-voices-of-africa-for-sustainable-development?recruiter_id=16731206</a><br />
> 23. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CrystalKigoni</a><br />
> 24. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20585778&trk=tab_pro</a><br />
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