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Dear P.S Ndemo, <br>
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You note that we have adopted nonsensical ideologies, did we have a
choice? <font size="3"> Many have have argued that we have often
lacked the socio-economic organisation to transform and develop
into advanced economies and that's the reason why we seem to
continuously adopt foreign ideologies and depend on industrialised
countries.</font><font size="3"><br>
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<p><font size="3">Countries like Korea seem to have certain
attributes that have enabled them to adapt more easily to
"development" from having a more educated/skilled labour force,
technologically advanced, but the most important factor seems
to be their (authoritarian) leadership, who are more
ideologically committed to socio-economic progress and
development. The Korean experience raise's the old questions
regarding the relationship between socio-economic development
and regime type.<br>
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<p><font size="3">So could the challenge and a our biggest problem
be corrupt politicians and stupid voters?</font><font size="3">
And perhaps it is time to move towards de-ideologisation having
experienced the </font> failure of previous "adopted" ideologies
in solving our unique challenges and crises and let us hope that
it will be sustainable.<br>
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<p>Best<br>
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<p>Alice<br>
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On 14/11/2011 16:06, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> wrote:
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Muraya,<br>
Let it be clear that as we fight corruption, we are not the only
corrupt. I am reading Capitalism 4.0 and Kaletsky argues that
"politicians are corrupt, banks are greedy and voters are stupid".
If you have followed the financial crisis in both US and Europe,
you cannot believe the level of corruption.<br>
<br>
I am looking forward to see what TI reports. Although I support
the idea that we should fight our own corruption war, it is absurd
to be characterized as corrupt yet we see what is happening. We
need to understand these new forms of corruption as they impact on
us. The volatility of our shilling is a reaction to the financial
crisis elsewhere. If we were to leave everything to the dictates
of economics, our shilling will highly be valued. The continued
currency manipulation by some countries will destabilize Africa.<br>
<br>
What you are seeing is a failure of Laissers-faire economics (Less
Government more Private Sector) promoted by Reagan/Thatcher
regimes and other economists such as Rand. Even Liberal Democrats
like Clinton and Blair had to become centrist in order to be
elected and shifted from Keynesian economics that had served the
world for decades. <br>
<br>
We adopted this nonsensical economics <br>
and that is why Land in Kenya appreciates on a daily basis without
any economic explanations. We then start blaming ourselves in
Movoko County. Let us decide what ideology is good for us and stop
being appendages of others.<br>
<br>
Sorry Blackberry is a nightmare for typing.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
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<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [kictanet] Korea - Dr Ndemo for
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Can we say, development revolves around transparency?<br>
<br>
Should we not focus on more than revenue collection?<br>
<br>
It is harder to steal (citizen time / public funds) when everyone
can see what you are or not doing?<br>
<br>
Revenue collections can increase even with improved citizen /
customer / client relationship management.<br>
<br>
Who is to blame for the demolitions in Mavoko (Syokimau)? <br>
<br>
Some victims (citizens) say when they were building, the Mavoko
County Council was aware and never told them anything.<br>
<br>
Is it not time for especially for local governments to request
citizen e-mail addresses in various applications for services and
approvals?<br>
<br>
Also, have often wondered how to report good behavior when in govt
offices / parastatals.<br>
<br>
This will get good people promoted -- and we know good people are
more likely themselves to hire / promote / contract other good
people.<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:38 AM, <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jane,<br>
There are possibly reasons why Korea is doing better than its
1960s peers.<br>
Casual look on the road tells you that more than nine out of
ten vehicles<br>
on the road are Korean. You either see the Hyundai or a Kia
and sometimes<br>
a Samsung. There is practically no foreign car here even the
Toyota which<br>
originally gave the technology to Korea. I am told that 100%
of the home<br>
appliances are locally manufactured. This level of patriotism
(royalty to<br>
local outputs) is not by accident. South Korea is sandwiched
by two<br>
powerful economies, that is, Japan and China.<br>
<br>
This is an export-orientated country, with a total trade
volume exceeding<br>
900 billion in 2010. This figure also makes them the 7th
largest exporter<br>
and 10th largest importer in the world. Since 2003, South
Korea has<br>
established its network of free trade agreements to boost
trade and<br>
economic ties with other countries.<br>
<br>
Currently, South Korea has 5 FTAs in effect, 3 FTAs which has
concluded<br>
discussions, and 19 FTAs under negotiation and consideration.
So far, the<br>
biggest FTA of South Korea is the Korea-US Free Trade
Agreement (KORUS<br>
FTA) signed in 2007. This free trade agreement plans to
liberate 95<br>
percent of the trade tariffs between the 2 countries. It is
also US<br>
first free trade agreement with a major Asian economy and
biggest deal<br>
since the North America Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) signed
with Japan in<br>
1993. Even with these FTAs some Koreans oppose especially FTA
with the<br>
US. At a neatly organized rally (looked like an AGM of some
company)<br>
people are gathered to protest FTA with the US. They argue it
will hurt<br>
their industry.<br>
<br>
With a lack in natural resources, South Korea has a high
dependence on<br>
import of capital goods, raw materials and industrial
supplies. The<br>
country is also the 5th largest importer of oil in the world,
with 3.074<br>
million barrels imported per day.<br>
<br>
This makes Korea a good case study for Kenya as we have almost
a similar<br>
background. At the height of structural adjustment program
(SAP), Kenya<br>
had practically developed local capacity to manufacture cars.
Uhuru then<br>
manufactured by General Motors had attained more than 60%
local content.<br>
The neighbouring countries had begun to import Uhuru from
Kenya but we<br>
were more focused on exports to Europe than exploiting the
regional<br>
market. The then Government which ironically introduced Nyayo
car found<br>
it easier to import used cars from Japan. We had lost track
of going<br>
through a learning curve and create local capacities. Similar
tastes were<br>
developing in the textile industry that led to the shutdown of
Rivertex.<br>
The change of policy from SAPs to liberalization gave rise to
looting of<br>
public enterprises (Read Kenatco, KNTC, ICDC, Kisumu Molasses,
Kenya<br>
National Assurance, AT&H etc.) Other countries notably
Korea, Singapore<br>
and Australia turned to corporatization of state enterprises
and they<br>
succeeded big. If there were to be any justice through TJRC,
it is the<br>
repossession of these assets to enable us create a youth
venture capital<br>
to help the youth set up enterprises. I am well aware that
Kenya media<br>
knows who looted and the state of those assets.<br>
<br>
There is no need for us to be sorry about the past and keep on
whining<br>
about the future. We must identify the opportunities that are
glaring at<br>
us. It is not for nothing that God denied Middle East the
land to grow<br>
food and gave them oil. We have a comparative advantage in
certain areas<br>
that only after we exploit them that it becomes an
opportunity. We must<br>
move from the past where opportunity meant a job opportunity
to an<br>
environment where opportunity means you need to scratch your
head and see<br>
a window where others have not seen one then exploit the
chance. Africa<br>
and Middle East provides that window.<br>
<br>
We also must be patient and willing to take collective
sacrifices for us<br>
to succeed as a nation. You visit India and see that they do
not import<br>
many vehicles too. In as much as the Mahindra is slow and
ugly, Indian<br>
buys it. The Tata truck may not be great but Indians buy it.
We have<br>
exported raw coffee far too long as we import instant coffee
from our raw<br>
materials. Building a value added industry of our resources
for the<br>
African market will make Kenya the largest economy in Africa.
In two<br>
years’ time consumption in Africa will top $3 trillion. I
have not even<br>
talked about AGOA which remains unexploited. Think.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
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<div><br>
<br>
> PS,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I bring back the debate of your for presidency! I
strongly feel you have a<br>
> lot to offer and wish Kenyans would vote beyond
political rhetoric! What<br>
> do<br>
> you think should be done to promote such change in
this country? Am<br>
> impressed by the Korea's experience beyond words and
feel thoroughly<br>
> challenged. However, at times I think we do not want
real change because<br>
> we<br>
> benefit from the chaotic system in our country.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Jane<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: kictanet-bounces+info=<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:amwik.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target="_blank">amwik.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Binfo" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+info</a>=<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:amwik.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target="_blank">amwik.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On
Behalf Of<br>
> James Mbugua<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:35 PM<br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:info@amwik.org" target="_blank">info@amwik.org</a><br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Korea<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> PS<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> That is enlightening stuff. Please also check out the
last mile solutions.<br>
> As I have always told you, I think government should
build the fiber to<br>
> the<br>
> home with an allocation from the national budget the
same way we allocate<br>
> money for roads. Private sector can't do it and where
they do, they will<br>
> charge an arm and a leg to "recoup investments."<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> They key lesson to be learnt also from those
observations is productivity<br>
> per capita.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Kenyans are hard workers but we have inefficient
production systems.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The amount a Chinese or Korean worker produces in an
hour is probably what<br>
> a<br>
> Kenyan worker will take a day or two to produce.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We must think of ways of improving productivity.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Manual labourers must not be allowed to hold this
economy hostage with<br>
> their<br>
> abysmal production levels and loud, unreasonable
politics.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> If you haven't guessed by now which manual labourers
I speak of, think<br>
> Atwoli and his tea pickers who won't allow
mechanization at the farms and<br>
> the dock workers who won't allow efforts to make the
Port of Mombasa more<br>
> efficient.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Economic development theories dictate that
mechanization takes place to<br>
> free<br>
> up manual labourers to move into other economic
sectors. We must look<br>
> seriously at our level of productivity if we are to
develop to Korea's<br>
> level.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> James Mbugua<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I arrived in Korea yesterday for a Global
e-Government conference. ITU<br>
> ranks Korea as number one in ICT diffusion. From the
airport you see<br>
> people walk through with an e-passport using
biometrics. The New Incheon<br>
> airport is 70 Kms west of Seoul, the capital and
largest city of South<br>
> Korea with some 11 million inhabitants. It is one of
the largest and<br>
> busiest airports in the world actually the world's
fourth busiest airport<br>
> by cargo traffic, and the world's eighth busiest
airport in terms of<br>
> international passengers in 2010.<br>
><br>
> Korea is about 99,000 sq Kms or one half of the Rift
Valley Province of<br>
> Kenya with a population of 50 million and a GDP of $1
trillion (Kenya's<br>
> GDP is about $35 billion). In the 60's it was
largely a donor recipient<br>
> country with a GDP less than that of Kenya and more
than 60% of its<br>
> population below poverty. They have turned tables to
be a member of the<br>
> OECD and a donor country over a short period.<br>
><br>
> For many years it mostly depended on the USA as its
largest trade partner<br>
> but over a time they focused their energies on the
Asian Markets. Its<br>
> trade with China, USA and Japan in 2010 figures
stands at %190, $98 and<br>
> $90 billion respectively. They import a great deal
of food and the reason<br>
> why we should not lease our land but use it to
improve on our economic<br>
> growth. A Kg of meat here is $100 imported from
Canada and Brazil.<br>
><br>
> I asked our Ambassador why we cannot sell our meat
here. He says we do<br>
> not meat their standards. This should not be a
problem since we have<br>
> broadband in most parts of the country that we can
keep pace with the rest<br>
> of the world in keeping the records especially those
required by various<br>
> standrds organization.<br>
><br>
> Back to Korea. ICTs are also deployed along the
highways making it easier<br>
> to go through the toll stations and collecting all
the revenues. You can<br>
> get data from government at every hour. You can for
example know the<br>
> number of children born in a day throughtout the
country. There is CCTV<br>
> practically everywhere. Crime is approaching zero.<br>
><br>
> There is an over supply of affordable public
transport via the rail and<br>
> bus system all clean and on time. If you choose to
drive on your own, you<br>
> are taxed at every new turn you make. The tax from
the polluters who<br>
> cannot use public transport is used to subsidize the
energy efficient<br>
> public tranportation.<br>
><br>
> Every child after high school has to go through the
Military thus<br>
> instilling the discipline required in this
competitive world. Because of<br>
> such discipline, they do everything very fast. We
were literaly running<br>
> behind our hosts to catch up with them. In the
Newspapers there is a Bank<br>
> executive who has committed suicide because he gave
questionable loans to<br>
> friends. He killed himself for shaming his family
and that he may not<br>
> have any friends.<br>
><br>
> My experience here confirms much of what we have been
saying in this<br>
> forum. The problem is how to inculcate such high
levels of ethical<br>
> standards as well as feeling of shame.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
><br>
> Ndemo.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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