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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Grace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Based on what I have seen on this list to date, I think if we
are to<SPAN class=015463414-25102011> accord</SPAN> this very important
topic</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>the <SPAN class=015463414-25102011>magnitude</SPAN> it deserves,
we may need a much more larger, multi-stakeholder forum to
tackle</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>information management. Perhaps we can dub it "Information Value
chain management for</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>socio-economic and political development"<SPAN
class=015463414-25102011>. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=015463414-25102011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=156074210-20102011>Then this
way, we can tap some of the progressive minds we have in this country, including
our</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=156074210-20102011>very own PS
to help us put into sharp focus a more "Knowledge-based" society that
will drive</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=156074210-20102011>forward a
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011>"Knowledge-based Economy/Socio-Political
agenda"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>We need
to scale this to a level at which we can<SPAN class=015463414-25102011>
</SPAN><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><SPAN class=015463414-25102011>start
seeing action and realizing clearly
laid-out</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=156074210-20102011><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011><SPAN class=015463414-25102011>objectives
going </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011><SPAN class=015463414-25102011>forward. Stakeholders
really need to stand out and be
counted.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN class=156074210-20102011>My final
take..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=156074210-20102011>Harry</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR>
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kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Grace Githaiga<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 24, 2011 12:53
AM<BR><B>To:</B> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B>
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] Freedom of
Information laws and records management/More questions<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Great ideas Wamukoya and Dr. Ndemo<BR> <BR>Wamukoya,
you raise the same concern that Dr Ndemo raised earlier in this
discussion on how we manage information. The question that still remains
unanswered is: <STRONG>In what formats should this information be stored
in?</STRONG><BR> <BR>I agree with you on the need for institutions to have
proper structures of managing information and I have in mind institutions such
as the Judiciary and the Ministry of Lands. You are on spot on the need
for government bodies to have a systematic approach towards information
management. This question needsd further discussion: <STRONG>How do we
incorporate records management into discussions about ICT development,
e-government and development general</STRONG>ly?<BR> <BR>Dr. Ndemo, in
your contribution, you provide this vital information that the government is
already working on data standards for the open data. Could you
kindly provide more information on the process, and for example can people
(read listers) make input? <BR> <BR>You raise the issue that there is
need for apps that will make it easier for the public to navigate through
and find information they are looking for. <STRONG>Are you tapping on local
talent say from the ihub?</STRONG><BR> <BR>Listers, please feel free to
discuss these questions and those that have been raised in this debate <EM>on
aligning records management with ICT e-government and freedom of
information,</EM> that you feel need elaboration. In the meantime we will
start putting together points that have emerged and share once we complete
compiling. <BR> <BR>Have a great
week.<BR> <BR>Rgds<BR>GG<BR> <BR><BR><BR> <BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>If
you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all
about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule
the World!<BR><BR> <BR>
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:03:54 +0100<BR>From: jwamukoya1@yahoo.com<BR>Subject:
Re: [kictanet] Freedom of Information laws and records management/More questions
raised by Dr Ndemo and Harry Delano<BR>CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR>To:
ggithaiga@hotmail.com<BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>Thanks Dr. Ndemo for your thoughts.It is true that organizations
public as well as private need to manage their information as well as records
well enough that citizens can have access to quality information that will
enable them ascertain their various rights. This will require a more systematic
approach in the way we automate our registries to ensure provision of quality
information. Currently, government efforts in various information sectors such
as ICT, e-Government, Records Management and FOI are disjointed and not
adequately coordinated. Professionals in each sector are doing their own thing
without paying attention to what is happenning in other sectors. We can
certainly take this country places by having in place a more systematic and
integrated approach towards information management with more attention being
paid to standards. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Have a good day.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Justus</SPAN></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "bitange@jambo.co.ke"
<bitange@jambo.co.ke><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
justus wamukoya <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> "kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 21 October 2011,
21:05<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [kictanet]
Freedom of Information laws and records management/More questions raised by Dr
Ndemo and Harry Delano<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>Justus,<BR>You are right. The Government actually is a head in this
endeavor considering the fact that most registries would be digitized before the
law is in place. On open data we are working on data standards. We need more
apps to make it easier for the public to navigate through and find what they
want.<BR><BR>People generally would need information that affects their day to
day life. Personally I would need more data or information from utilities. Here
we shall need for example smart grid so that I can understand my energy
consumption. I need to verify what KPLC or City Council bill me. I need to
compare what my physician charges me. I need the hospital to itemise their
billing. This is where we shall have a problem since most of these organization
have no idea what the impact of access to information is all a bout.<BR><BR>Soon
on open data we post school performaces and qualification of teachers. This will
help provide better analtics on why some schools or students perform better than
others.<BR><BR>We simply have to have all the information in digital format. It
will be easier to manage the databases and create more software development
jobs. Digital records are easier to manage, search and greater sharing of
information.<BR><BR><BR>Ndemo.<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>