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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Hey, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I've delved into the the document availed by Rosemary(thanks for
this), and also comments from Henry and</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I was considering </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>a
response </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>when I saw a post come </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>in from the
PS..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>As earlier argued, I suppose a balanced approach would
require we adopt both the PS' well
articulated view</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>on one hand, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial>and rationally </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>balance this
against universally accepted benchmarks such as </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>the
"platform </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>on access to information".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>This is why from the first word we need to have a clear understanding
of all these terminologies in order to</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>move forward. Now the PS mentions that Data in its stored form
can never be information, until the same is </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>conveyed to the target audience. What of knowledge..? Where on the
value chain do we build up data into</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>knowledge, so that we can build ours into a "knowledge-based
economy"..?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>And if we go up the data/information tree, what about data that
has yet to find it's way into the data bank, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>possibly </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial>some which remains in institutional memory form. How do
we ensure we capture this for future</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>generations?.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I suppose the key aspect as he has mentioned, is the The "Information
Value Chain" management. And </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>everyone has a role to play other than just leaving it to one player
as I mentioned in an earlier post. The</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>growing challenge that we face today is, how to harness the best
tools and strategies that will bring to </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>bear one of the most important resources </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>in our time - "The
information age" for socio-economic, and </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>political development.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>And again, everyone has a role to play..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531272605-19102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Grace Githaiga [mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B>
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [kictanet] Freedom of
Information laws and records management/ e- discussion
continued<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Harry, thanks for
those probing questions that have kept this discussion going and continue to
raise more questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As a result,
our attention has been drawn to a very important document. Kudos to Kerubo
for the responses.<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Rosemary, the <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Africa Platform on Access to Information
Declaration</I> is a great document. It is comprehensive and we appreciate
your bringing it to our attention. It will contribute to the review of the
IRMT/IDRC study on <EM>aligning records management with ICT, e-goverment and
freedom of information, </EM>which has been the basis of this
e-discussion.</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In your
contribution, you point out that access to information cannot succeed unless
government takes initiative to develop legislation and ensure its
implementation. Harry felt that the State must at all costs avail information.
The question to listers is: <o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">What demands would Freedom of Information
(FOI) legislation place on government?<o:p></o:p></B></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Henry, you have
unpackaged the Right to Information (RTI) concept in a very practical and
relevant manner. The local example using Mavoko is on spot. I know listers will
take you up on your offer to seek more information on the
topic.<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You
point out the need to have information in retrievable formats and proactively
making as much of such information public. Also, that public servants/officers
have a duty to assist citizens who may not know where to find information they
may need. <o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=MsoNormal><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What
strategies could be developed to synchronize Freedom of Information and records
management initiatives?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">And
finally to Harry: did you find out what the citizens’ responsibility would
be in all this?<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">A
great day to all of you listers. Lets hear your
views.<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Rgds<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #2a2a2a; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Grace<o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P><BR> <BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>If
you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all
about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule
the World!<BR><BR> <BR>
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From: harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:58:44 +0300<BR>Subject:
Re: [kictanet] Freedom of Information laws/ e- discussion continued<BR>CC:
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Many thanks Kurubo/Grace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I suppose then, in light of the foregoing, State must at all costs
avail "information" under it's possession.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Citing the "Freedom of information" clause within this context
however, makes it imperative for State to </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>do so within universally adopted benchmarks. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>But within the
same context, what is the citizen's </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>responsibility?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I could check this out. But does the clause in the same vein confer a
mandatory responsibility upon the </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>citizen </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial>to </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>ensure their exercise
of this "Right to access" does not go to waste, or d</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>oes he/she have the
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>freedom </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial>to </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>exercise
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>this right/liberty liberally.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>One can argue that for instance, a mother who fails to
vaccinate her child against polio, because of
"<STRONG>failure"</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>to access information as opposed to "<STRONG>lack"</STRONG> of
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>access to information should be held responsible. Is this
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>enforceable in law..? How?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Lastly but not least, State has only a tiny custody of information
consumable by the public. I dare say that</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>a lot of information/knowledge sought after by information consumers
fall well outside the State domain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>How do we police those outside, who hoard information
desperately needed by consumers...? And what</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>of those who deliberately avail misleading information/knowledge,
including state..?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=ecx515513010-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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