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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Hey Grace & Kerubo,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Thanks for your summary overview. I wonder aloud whether it
should only be the state that maintains this monopoly over
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>accessibility to basic </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>information in as far
as "<STRONG>Freedom </STRONG>of information" is
concerned.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Whereas state has the instruments it can use to either promote
or curtail such freedoms, I suppose it would also be safe </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>to say that in quite a number of </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>instances, state might
be deemed a "lame duck". </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>How about a remote Island sequestered somewhere, about 200
miles off the shores of Lake Victoria with no basic </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>access
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>to </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>communication?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Would the populace there's lack thereof, of basic information access
be considered an infringement on this fundamental</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>right/liberty by the state...?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750221805-18102011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Grace Githaiga<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:57
AM<BR><B>To:</B> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B>
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR><B>Subject:</B> [kictanet] Freedom of
Information laws/ e- discussion continued<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Thanks Harry Delano, Washington, Cleophas and Kerubo.
<BR> <BR>Harry you raise a good question on what these terms mean and
whether they are interchangeable. <BR> <BR>Washington, you make an
important point about freedom of expression/speech not being absolute, and
Cleophas affirms your point. <BR> <BR>Thanks Kerubo for the
definitions. Yes, freedom of information simply means the
freedom to get certain basic information held by the state, which can enable one
to for example bring a case of human rights violation or any other cause.
<BR> <BR>Freedom of expression can mean many things, say freedom to air
your ideas, take a stand, artistic creativity--simply freedom to express
how you feel. And of course as Washington and Cleophas rightly point
out, all these freedoms are subject to limitations and therefore not carte
blanche. <BR> <BR>In this case then:<BR>
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<LI>Is there conflict between laws on freedom of information and what citizens
demand/require?</LI></UL> <BR>Lets hear it from
you.<BR> <BR>Rgds<BR>Grace<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>