<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>No just sent it once....must be yahoo.</span></div><div><span>Catherine</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Catherine Adeya' <elizaslider@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:04 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br></font><br>
Hey Catherine,<br><br>I suppose we have received about 5 copies of this. Did you resent from <br>your outbox...?<br><br>Check, the mail might still be stuck there..<br><br>Harry <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<br>Behalf Of Catherine Adeya<br>Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:18 PM<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our
Newsprint<br><br><br>On the contrary Daktari. I am speaking from experience having taught, and<br>then worked, with editing graduates. It is possible to work very very hard<br>on something you are not sure about, or not comfortable with, and get the<br>same result. I do agree that there are some jobs that if you work very hard<br>and with the right attitude and achieve phenomenal results. However, Daktari<br>it is not the same with editing. I have worked with a very studious young<br>editor but he just did not have an eye for copy-editing as hard as he<br>worked. I finally found the best position for him within the company where<br>he wrote the initial articles (he did a great job by the way though mixed<br>his tenses quite a bit& misused punctuation a lot). MJ had passion for what<br>he did combined with hard work. This young man had the same but he just<br>could not 'sing' (edit) like MJ even with a lot of practice. He tried so<br>hard but he
could not be the last eye in the editorial process. In the long<br>run, everyone was happy. There is room for different levels of editors in<br>the editorial process but we have to be careful in the hiring process to get<br>those with the potential/capacity to fit in this process.<br>Catherine <br><br><br><br>On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:08 CEST <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> wrote:<br><br>>Catherine,<br>>I think we are approaching this discussion the wrong way. If you have been<br>employed to be an Editor, then be the best in the World. You simply have to<br>take the job seriously.<br>><br>>You need to watch Michael Jackson's "This is it" in order to understand<br>what taking your job seriously mean. You will begin to understand why he<br>was good. Similarly, we can have good editors. The Indians have succeeded<br>in this yet we think we have better
grasp of the language.<br>><br>>There are good Editors out there but they are kept out of the job either<br>because they do not know someone or have no money to bribe and get the job.<br>Do we know how the hiring is done? For us to succeed we must first accept<br>our inadequacies, our rotten habbits, our biases, our tribalist tendancies,<br>our ...<br>><br>>There is no sabstitute for hard work and transparency. If we embrace these<br>simple rules, our publications will change over night. It is time we accept<br>that governance issue for this country does not only affect the Government.<br>We must get rid of it from our society.<br>><br>>This is the root cause of our bad image in everything we do.<br>><br>><br>>Ndemo.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> <br>>Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>><br>>-----Original Message-----<br>>From: Catherine Adeya <<a
ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>><br>>Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a ymailto="mailto:jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate" href="mailto:jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate">jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate</a>: <br>>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:02:00<br>>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>Reply-To: Catherine Adeya <<a ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>><br>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>kictanet mailing list<br>><a
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