<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span>Hi,</span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Thanks for noting the grammatical error, but what is your contribution to the discussion? I fear not throwing stones from within or without my glass house.</div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Regards</div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">"Once you put yourself on
a </font>pedestal<font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> expect to be pelted"</font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "> </span><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Cleophas Barmasai <cbarmasai@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 6 October 2011, 11:34<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br></font><br><div id="yiv1859197166"><span><font size="3">"Many might <b>thing </b>that this issue does not affect us on the ICT industry but I beg to differ...</font></span>"<br><br><font size="4">I think a spell and grammar checker software alone will not help.<br>
<br>Cleophas</font><br><br><br><div class="yiv1859197166gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:16 AM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv1859197166gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size:12pt;"><span>Doctor Ndemo,</span></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;"><span><br></span></div><div><span><font size="3">However much I might agree with you on the issue of teachers, software companies have solved the issue by providing spell and </font>grammar checkers what is so difficult with the editor running the articles through such a check before sending to print. Unless we are saying that they are using rudimentary system<font size="3"> which do not have such essentials.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font size="3"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font size="3">The rot
is much deeper what you have raised in this thread is the tip of the iceberg we seriously need to go below the surface if we are looking for a sustainable solution.</font></span></div><div><span><font size="3"><br></font></span></div>
<div><span><font size="3">Many might thing that this issue does not affect us on the ICT industry but I beg to differ (I initially type the word "defer" but I took the effort to check the meanings) the problem falls squarely in our realm.</font></span></div>
<div class="yiv1859197166im"><div><span><font size="3"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font size="3">Regards</font></span> </div><div style="font-size:12pt;"> </div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;">Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th
Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">Tel: <a rel="nofollow">+254722511225</a>, <a rel="nofollow">+254202010696</a><br>
<div style="font-size:12pt;"><div style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><div class="yiv1859197166im"><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 5 October 2011, 17:46<div><div class="yiv1859197166h5"><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br>
</div></div></font><div><div class="yiv1859197166h5"><br>Ory,<br>I recently posted the mapping
of teachers in the country and proved KNUT<br>wrong on their approach to learning in this country. Our pilot test<br>showed that only one of the ten teachers could manage a score of 350. I<br>see a correlation between individual responsibility of teachers and the<br>
products we are now getting.<br><br><br><br>Ndemo.<br><br><br><br><br>> Well, when our own teachers are failing at spelling, one wonders...<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.elimuportal.net/">http://www.elimuportal.net/</a><br>
><br>> (*still* zero response on fixing the typos)<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:53 PM,<br>> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>wrote:<br>
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>> To: "Kipkemoi
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>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1<br>>><br>>> Kipkemoi arap Kirui,<br>>> In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs<br>>> subsequent<br>>> inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either<br>
>>
change<br>>> the quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some<br>>> work<br>>> on our 8-4-4 system.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Ndemo.<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> > Andrea,<br>>> ><br>>> > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and<br>>> > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet<br>>> building<br>
>> > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or<br>>> program.<br>>> > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access<br>>> competent<br>>> > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their<br>
>> > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we really<br>>> > blame these Kenyans?<br>>> ><br>>> > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and
elsewhere to<br>>> search<br>>> > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan<br>>> > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating students<br>>> > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual<br>
>> > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a candidate<br>>> to<br>>> > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple<br>>> > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.<br>
>> ><br>>> > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to<br>>> understand<br>>> > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of<br>>> these<br>
>> > institutions any education is at all taking place.<br>>> ><br>>> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui<br>>> ><br>>> > Sent from my iPad<br>>> ><br>>> > On Oct
5, 2011, at 7:24, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:info@alyhussein.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a> wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> >> Andrea<br>>> >><br>>> >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and<br>
>> spelling<br>>> >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with or<br>>> >> without the gun.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve<br>
>> ourselves<br>>> >> is what matters.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry??<br>>> >><br>>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>>> >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
>> >>
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>> From: Kipkemoi arap Kirui <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:arapkirui@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:arapkirui@gmail.com">arapkirui@gmail.com</a>><br>>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English
grammar in our Newsprint<br>>> Message-ID:<br>>> <CAGc6DJXic2OAE6cL1MfE0V+<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Q1Zo-nxhNWg7M6365O1TuJ41SJw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Q1Zo-nxhNWg7M6365O1TuJ41SJw@mail.gmail.com">Q1Zo-nxhNWg7M6365O1TuJ41SJw@mail.gmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>>><br>>> Omogambi Ndemo,<br>>><br>>> Yours is a call to action. Can we diagnose, evaluate and act?<br>>><br>
>> arap Kirui<br>>><br>>> On 5 October 2011 14:29, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> > Kipkemoi arap Kirui,<br>>> > In system theory there is feedback and evaluation which informs<br>
>> subsequent<br>>> > inputs. When the output does not meet the expectations, you either<br>>> change<br>>> > the
quality of inputs or revise the processing system. We need some<br>>> work<br>>> > on our 8-4-4 system.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > Ndemo.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>
>> ><br>>> > > Andrea,<br>>> > ><br>>> > > I guess it is a more serious problem. That of poor foundation and<br>>> > > commercialization of our undergraduate programs. Every backstreet<br>
>> > building<br>>> > > in most towns now houses some university or affiliate college or<br>>> program.<br>>> > > How can all these mushrooming universities and campuses access<br>>> competent<br>
>> > > faculty to take our young people through this crucial stage of their<br>>> > > lives? How can they access library and other resources? Can we<br>>> really<br>>> > > blame these
Kenyans?<br>>> > ><br>>> > > I want to ask the Professors and Lecturers here and elsewhere to<br>>> search<br>>> > > their souls and ask themselves whether what is going on in Kenyan<br>
>> > > universities is sustainable. A large number of our graduating<br>>> students<br>>> > > cannot process simple tasks nor can they engage in intellectual<br>>> > > discussions in their 'professional' areas. This week I saw a<br>
>> candidate<br>>> to<br>>> > > the IEBC with a PhD (due respect to her) who barely processed simple<br>>> > > questions asked by the Ekuru Aukot Panel.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Let us go back to our universities and 'campuses' and try to<br>
>> understand<br>>> > > what really goes on there. Let us check whether in fact in some of<br>>> these<br>>> > > institutions any
education is at all taking place.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Kipkemoi arap Kirui<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Sent from my iPad<br>>> > ><br>>> > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:24, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:info@alyhussein.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a> wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>>> > >> Andrea<br>>> > >><br>>> > >> Blaming tools like the PC and mobile phones for bad grammar and<br>>> spelling<br>>> > >> is a bit like blaming the gun for killings - they will happen with<br>
>> or<br>>> > >> without the gun.<br>>> > >><br>>> > >> Attitudes, the willingness to learn and continuously improve<br>>> ourselves<br>>> > >> is what matters.<br>
>> > >><br>>> > >> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>>> >
>><br>>> > >> -----Original Message-----<br>>> > >> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
>> > >> Sender:<br>>> kictanet-bounces+info=<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:alyhussein.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate" target="_blank" href="mailto:alyhussein.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate">alyhussein.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate</a><br>>> :<br>>> > >> Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:58:30<br>
>> > >> To: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:info@alyhussein.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@alyhussein.com">info@alyhussein.com</a>><br>>> > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in
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>> > >><br>>> > >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder<br>>> platform<br>>> > >>
for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy<br>>> and<br>>> > >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the<br>>> ICT<br>>> > >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and<br>
>> > >> development.<br>>> > >><br>>> > >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable<br>>> behaviors<br>>> > >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and<br>
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>> To: James Kagwe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com">kagwejg@gmail.com</a>><br>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint<br>>> Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:1317816104.4e8c4728a3233@www.skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:1317816104.4e8c4728a3233@www.skyweb.co.ke">1317816104.4e8c4728a3233@www.skyweb.co.ke</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>>><br>>> Listers,<br>>><br>>> In my view this is but a reflection of how standards across the board<br>>> have<br>>> fallen. There is simply no pride in a good job done- casualness is the<br>
>> order of<br>>> the day.'It can pass' - so it is said.<br>>> We need to get back to the thoroughness that once was- ACROSS THE BOARD.<br>>><br>>> Gilda<br>>><br>>> Quoting James Kagwe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com">kagwejg@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>>> > I have also noted lots of typing errors on the scrolling text<br>>> especially<br>>> > during 9.00 PM news on most of them.<br>>> ><br>>> > On 10/4/2011 11:11 PM, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> wrote:<br>
>> > > All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors. At this<br>>> time<br>>> and<br>>> > age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors? We have<br>>> > thousands of English majors without jobs. It is time for media to be<br>
>> > thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs.<br>>> As a<br>>> > Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Ndemo.<br>>> > ><br>
>> >
><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>>> > ><br>>> > > -----Original Message-----<br>>> > > From: Grace Githaiga<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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