<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Hi,</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Let us be careful about taking a position of weakness on the issue of the Somalis and by extension the Muslims. The rest of us make up 80% of the population which unfortunately consists of 32 million individuals thereby the fear we have of a unified group of only 8 Million.</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">With the advent of open data we should be able to easily put statical evidence on the table instead of spreading </font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">unsubstantiated</font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> rumours.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Dr. Ndemo, can we get access to the records at the Ministry of Lands indicating the stamp duty paid from which, as IT people, we should be able to confirm if it is the Somalis who are raising the price of housing?<br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new
york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Growing up in Buru Buru in the late seventies and early eighties I experienced the initial influx of the immigrant Somali, I went to school in Eastleigh which is why I appreciate the difference between the Kenyan and Somali Somali.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">When the refugees arrived they shot the price for rental of a 3 bedroom house from 5,000/- to 15,000/- per month. Note that they live as large families which is why they could afford to offer higher rents than the single family locals. In addition they were desperate for accommodation which is why they where willing to pay a premium.
</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">The rising cost of housing in Nairobi is more as a result of the sheep mentality that many of us suffer from which results in rising prices due to a perceived shortage. Nairobi has a built up area of less than 20% so what is the rush to buy overpriced houses? The exponential increase in the prices of houses is therefore clearly as a result of our pedestrian approach to issues even though we are better educated than our parents and grand parents for some untold reason we are less intelligent.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif" size="3">Even the Kileleshwa that we keep being told is running out still has more than 60% of its land surface either underutilised or vacant, you can use google earth to confirm or refute my statement.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Once we have exhausted all the available land and redeveloped Eastlands we can then relocate Statehouse and DOD so that we can redevelop the land. But with the counties taking shape that situation is unlikely to happen.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">The church I worship at in South C is </font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new
roman', 'new york', times, serif">sandwiched between 4 or maybe 5 Mosques but this does not cause me sleepless nights because to me it is a wakeup call that my faith needs to become a lifestyle and not a once a week activity. </font></div><div></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">So Doctor Ndemo, should the Muslims and immigrant/refugee Somalis be concerned about their continued stay in Kenya when you take over as president?</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Regards</font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert
Yawe</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, 17 August, 2011 10:05:16<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia<br></font><br>I think bwana Bitange is right.<br><br>Everyone I know is talking about the Somalis buying up<br>property but<br>its not discussed in public forums and we never hear<br>their side of the<br>story.<br>Their faith along with the often quoted Abuja<br>declaration<br>doesn't help matters either.<br>We need to talk about it and in as open a manner as<br>possible and get<br>their side of the story if there is one for the populace<br>to be at<br>ease.<br>Otherwise the other citizens start feeling caged in and<br>react<br>violently and lead to anarchy which will probably happen<br>anyway
if<br>history is to be relied on.e<br><br>-- <br>Regards,<br><br>Mark Mwangi<br><br><a href="http://mwangy.posterous.com" target="_blank">http://mwangy.posterous.com</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk</a><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in
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