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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">William,<BR>Today after a game of Tennis, I decided to hang out in the sauna for a<BR>while. I was delighted to see a colleague from University of Nairobi and<BR>a prominent professor of Biochemistry. There were other three club<BR>members. The professor narrated how for the first time in his life time<BR>while in Kisumu he had to settle for cat fish and ugali for his lunch on<BR>Saturday. There is no Tilapia he said. An Asian businessman originally<BR>from Kisumu who sat next to me indeed confirmed that all the fish business<BR>is the hands of Somali community which seems to have struck some gold mine<BR>in fish. He said noted “real estateb in all major towns is now in their<BR>hands too”.<BR><BR>The talk drifted into what such enormous resource could do to the country<BR>if the resource were to be used to buy our gullible
politicians. You<BR>could sense the helplessness in the small steamy cubicle. Although others<BR>felt that there was a plan being executed by one community to dominate the<BR>economy in all major towns of Kenya, I had to warn them that such talk can<BR>be dangerous and amount to discrimination against another community. I<BR>bring these discussions here because there are murmurs all over on the<BR>Somali Community spending on property without clear sources of the funds. <BR>Until we discuss this matter with open mind, it is disaster we are<BR>courting.<BR><BR>We are indeed faced with very difficult decisions in this country. There<BR>is need to get to the bottom of this matter since we know it will be a<BR>problem in future if we do not address it now. A large number of Somali<BR>have migrated to Kenya. In other countries such an influx is monitored<BR>closely even when there is no threat to state security. I
remember in<BR>1983 the Kenyan community in Minnesota numbered about fifteen. By 1987,<BR>the community had grown to about 1,000 and eating a lot of corn meal to<BR>the extent that it became a major story in US media. Local ABC news<BR>reported new immigrant community that has wiped out all the corn meal in<BR>the Twin Cities area. We have no account of the characteristics of our<BR>new immigrants.<BR><BR><BR>This is where ICTs begins to help us manage the development of our people.<BR> At every entry, we must take electronic finger prints of every person<BR>getting into the country. We must also get a tamper prove ID. This can<BR>be done along the lines of the Public Key Infrastructure. We must begin<BR>to release land registration records on to the open data platform. This<BR>will indeed help trace ill gotten properties that in many ways compromise<BR>the ability of local people in affording such
properties.<BR><BR>Good leadership is a product of informed citizens and embracing a<BR>participatory approach. This is how we can move forward together.<BR><BR>Keep hope alive. One Kenya.<BR><BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR><BR>Ndemo<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> Daktari,<BR>><BR>><BR>> Your story about the trip, environment and lack of planning is truly<BR>> reflective of the sad situation we find ourselves in. There is also the<BR>> nostalgia you and the pilot shared over the desecration of the<BR>> environment. Thanks for jogging memories on certain key facts about the<BR>> changing environmental conditions.<BR>><BR>> Janak<BR>><BR>> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><BR>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public<BR>> Demand-internet price?<BR>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">williamjanak@yahoo.com</a><BR>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="javascript:return">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><BR>> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 4:57 PM<BR>><BR>> Walubengo,<BR>> You can dig for your answer in my write up below.<BR>><BR>> This week I had an opportunity to fly to Laikipia for a lunch meeting with<BR>> investors who wanted to kill two birds with one stone by having a Safari<BR>> and discuss business at the same time. They paid the bill. The one<BR>> hour<BR>> flight to and from Laikipia got my head spinning. The pilot has
been<BR>> flying here for more than thirty years and has seen many physical changes<BR>> in Central, Eastern and Rift Valley. I pestered him with many questions.<BR>><BR>> At some point he told me that all the rivers that flow through Central<BR>> Kenya had crystal clear water in the 7o's and 80's but as farmers<BR>> encroached on riparian land, soil erosion crept in and now they are all<BR>> red dragging the best of soils into the Indian Ocean. In spite of<BR>> several<BR>> Departments of Geography in our Universities there are little or no<BR>> studies on the long term effects of what is happening to our ecosystem.<BR>> We study both human and physical geography not to apply the knowledge but<BR>> as a means to get papers for employment.<BR>><BR>> A quick research will tell you that we are not only food insecure but also<BR>> water insecure.   Although Kenya’s water per capita in
cubic meters<BR>> at 647<BR>> is above world average 360, we do not compare well with other progressive<BR>> countries such as India at 1,911 and China at 2,840. We were better at<BR>> independence since we had many dams built by the British but are now<BR>> non-existent. People planted Ndumas in most of the dams. We must now<BR>> admit we did not know the impact and still we do not know until our<BR>> academics get down to work on research.<BR>><BR>> Soil erosion means we are also eroding the most arable land in the<BR>> country. Per capita arable land in Kenya measures only .14 hectare per<BR>> person. Here we fall below the world average of .21 hectare per person.<BR>> The statistic implies the world must manage this resource better in order<BR>> to feed everybody. The British had started this policy on African<BR>> reserves sort of rural urbanization. We rightly shunned it but
without<BR>> studies to look into our future. We must re-introduce this with a better<BR>> name and better housing with all utilities. My research findings on such<BR>> housing will cost about Ksh. 200,000 per unit of three bedrooms. In<BR>> other<BR>> words we can construct 340,000 households from the Goldenberg loot if we<BR>> were to recover it. This will translate to all of Northern Kenya from<BR>> Kacheliba to Wajir.<BR>><BR>> We have about 6 million households in Kenya of which 3 million can afford<BR>> to pay for such a house or better. The Government can indeed manage to<BR>> build for the remainder through improved tax collections (we pay about 40%<BR>> of the potential income tax and about 20% of the potential local authority<BR>> taxes such as rates). Of course there will be other savings from health<BR>> budget that goes into opportunistic diseases that we can eliminate
from<BR>> the face of Kenya. These include water borne diseases. Typhoid alone<BR>> costs Kenya billions that need to be used to improve the livelihood of our<BR>> people and meet the constitutional demands.<BR>><BR>> Therefore, the question on Lake Victoria water will not arise if we dammed<BR>> all the waters that flow into the lake and elsewhere. As for affordable<BR>> prices for broadband, I have no doubts that we shall meet this even before<BR>> the end of this year. The shared infrastructure negotiations are going<BR>> on<BR>> smoothly. In a few weeks time we should move forward with the LTE open<BR>> access program. If we all understand the open access principle where big<BR>> and small will use the infrastructure at same access cost. More agile<BR>> companies will indeed provide very competitive pricing. As we move the<BR>> Government more online, the more the number of
internet users meaning we<BR>> shall reach the critical mass much faster. With the critical mass and<BR>> many providers, the price can only go downwards.<BR>><BR>> The biggest problem and one asked by Monda is the question of vested<BR>> interests. I know some sectors have a real problem with this issue and<BR>> negatively impacts on our economic growth. In our sector we have been<BR>> lucky in the sense that much of what we do is new and the rapid<BR>> technological changes discourage power brokers who may entrench themselves<BR>> to build strong vested interest. This is not to say that we are not<BR>> often<BR>> asked to do things differently. Our savior is going to be open<BR>> government<BR>> and in this I pray that every Kenyan understands this concept because it<BR>> has a way of not only dealing with vested interest but also impunity in a<BR>> way. If I had time I could delve
into this more. To date I do not<BR>> think<BR>> even media has understood this powerful tool.<BR>><BR>> Back to my flight. Coming back I found myself humming Jim Reeves’ song<BR>> “we thank thee each morning for a new born day ….. we thank thee for<BR>> the<BR>> sunshine and air we breathe, for the rivers that run, for the birds that<BR>> sing, for the eyes to see this things…unfortunately we may not hear the<BR>> birds sing since from above you can see that we have eliminated their<BR>> habitat – percent of total land area in Kenya covered by forest is 2%<BR>> compared to world average of 31%. We may not see the rivers as they were<BR>> before since all our soils are polluting the what remains of rivers as<BR>> eucalyptus has swallowed much of the water and wetlands.<BR>><BR>> Hovering over many towns across the land you get hurt by what you see.<BR>> Although
there are planners in all local authorities you see a cry of<BR>> unplanned structures with visible problems of managing solid waste. You<BR>> simply see chaos in a country with literacy levels approaching 90%. What<BR>> you see are the sources of many diseases and problems such as the jigger<BR>> menace in some parts of the country.   I grew up fairly poor but we did<BR>> not have this level of disorganization. At least health officers did<BR>> something to prevent many diseases. I saw dirty butcheries and<BR>> restaurants closed by health officers. There was a semblance of planned<BR>> dukas. Where the madness of unplanningness came from I do not know but<BR>> this is one of the things “candidate� Ndemo will deal with.<BR>><BR>> In conclusion, we must make very tough decisions if we want a better<BR>> future. I know the new constitution has brought all sorts of
rights but<BR>> it is all nonsense if we undermine the future with unplanned population,<BR>> unplanned urban centers, unplanned future, etc.   There must be no<BR>> rights<BR>> without responsibility.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Ndemo.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>> Bw PS,<BR>>><BR>>> nice insights you have below. Mine is simply to ask what your<BR>>> thoughts<BR>>> are, in terms of making consumer internet prices affordable. Yes, cost<BR>>> of<BR>>> bandwidth at international gateway level used to be 5,000USD per MB<BR>>> (over<BR>>> satellite) but now it has dropped below 500USD per MB. Basically<BR>>> it<BR>>> has dropped by 10 times - HOWEVER- in our cyber cafes, the cost of<BR>>> accessing internet is still 1/- to 2/- per minute, pretty much what it<BR>>> was<BR>>> during the satellite
days.<BR>>><BR>>> Mobile data internet which is the more common form of access is not any<BR>>> cheaper either. There's has been NO drop per-se, just marketing<BR>>> gimmicks of increasing the amount of bandwidth for the same (HIGH)<BR>>> price.<BR>>> It is like saying lunch costs 2,500/= at some 5star hotel, but since<BR>>> there<BR>>> has been good rains/harvest, for the same 2,500/= you are free to eat<BR>>> ALL<BR>>> you want...sounds good, but ONLY for those who could afford the 2,500/=<BR>>> lunch bracket in the first place - who unfortunately are not<BR>>> many....particularly in an economy whose average monthly income is<BR>>> around<BR>>> 8,000sh.<BR>>><BR>>> So how do you intend to tackle the internet price problem when you get<BR>>> to<BR>>> be President?<BR>>><BR>>> walu.<BR>>><BR>>> --- On
Fri, 8/12/11, <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><BR>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public<BR>>> Demand<BR>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><BR>>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="javascript:return">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><BR>>> Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 9:01 PM<BR>>><BR>>> Harry,<BR>>> Yes there is a crisis virtually in every country at the moment. The<BR>>> difference is how you handle the
situation. In Britain the Prime<BR>>> Minister<BR>>> thought he can take a vacation in Italy and forget what is going on at<BR>>> home but he was forced to dash home. Before I respond to how we take<BR>>> care<BR>>> of our crisis, I felt there is a patriotism lesson that we need to learn<BR>>> from Britain.<BR>>><BR>>> The first reports we got in our News papers here and even in electronic<BR>>> media, there was no cause of the crisis in Britain. It was simply<BR>>> reported that London is burning. Some of our best media houses with<BR>>> so<BR>>> many journalists forgot to ask questions like what, where, when, why,<BR>>> etc.<BR>>> This would have helped us understand. This is because the British<BR>>> Media<BR>>> (from where our Media got the story) first looks at their<BR>>>
country’s<BR>>> interests first and everything else is secondary. Does our Media<BR>>> have<BR>>> what they call Kenyan or African interests? If they did, they would<BR>>> have<BR>>> raised issues relating to racism and African Diaspora. We shall be<BR>>> more<BR>>> respected if we had the interest of those in the Diaspora at heart be<BR>>> they<BR>>> from Bahamas or Nigeria.<BR>>><BR>>> How do we respond to our crisis? This should not be a government<BR>>> project.<BR>>> The entire society needs a lesson on respecting other human beings<BR>>> because this where our problems start and will open up greater<BR>>> opportunity<BR>>> and sustained harmony for all humanity. In other countries they make<BR>>> an<BR>>> effort to socially integrate all citizens of different economic
classes.<BR>>> Let me elaborate. In Kenya a good mechanic will never be found<BR>>> drinking<BR>>> with a corporate CEO but in other countries it happens and sometimes you<BR>>> find they are neighbours. It is not common you find a woman with an<BR>>> undergraduate degree married to a plumber for example. We have<BR>>> defined<BR>>> classes that we try everything to belong to. We do not have good<BR>>> plumbers, mechanics, carpenters etc in this country yet we have thousand<BR>>> s<BR>>> looking for white collar jobs.<BR>>><BR>>> I am sure most of you have watched Cheers. The artists in the bar<BR>>> are a<BR>>> postman, a doctor, other professional, bar maids and men having a common<BR>>> goal. Where no one thinks or feels they know more than the<BR>>> other. This<BR>>> is the begging of
building a harmonious society that no one feels left<BR>>> out. The rift we have created just needs a small thing like shooting<BR>>> a<BR>>> drug dealer (as in the UK) then hell will break loose. We must not<BR>>> forget<BR>>> that this happened in China in 1949 when the Maoists took over. They<BR>>> literary killed anybody who seemed to be from upper class. Land<BR>>> reform<BR>>> was the major focus of policy as a result of China's vast rural<BR>>> population, around 90% of the population were farmers. Lands of former<BR>>> landlords were confiscated by the government and subsequently<BR>>> redistributed to the lower-class peasants. Do not forget the French<BR>>> revolution.<BR>>><BR>>> Discrimination in any form should be shunned. This is because it is<BR>>> the<BR>>> basis of all problems be it class
or tribalism.  Three of my<BR>>> close<BR>>> friends have experience that summarizes what I have tried to<BR>>> explain. <BR>>> Mr.<BR>>> X got six and eighteen points at O and A levels respectively. At<BR>>> university he came out with 1st class in Electrical Engineering and<BR>>> joined<BR>>> the then EAPL and later obtained an MBA. Mr. Y had division II and<BR>>> could<BR>>> not afford high school but went to Kenya Science Teachers to become a<BR>>> teacher. Mr. Z also passed his O levels with Division III and joined<BR>>> Barclays Bank as a Clerical officer. They have struggled in their<BR>>> own<BR>>> ways and of the four of us Z is the wealthiest. Any time I am with<BR>>> X, he<BR>>> complains why I should even have time for Y and Z. Y by the way has<BR>>> struggled
for many years and he will soon get his PhD. According to<BR>>> X<BR>>> these are not our class of people. He loathes Z as one who failed<BR>>> and<BR>>> now<BR>>> possibly has earned his wealth through corrupt means. In spite of<BR>>> the<BR>>> fact that I have tried to ask X to forget the past, he feels he belongs<BR>>> to<BR>>> a different class and hangs around some of the “successful�<BR>>> people.<BR>>> Although I have never disclosed this to Y and Z their sixth sense leads<BR>>> them to discriminate X from some events. At some point we were four<BR>>> young<BR>>> lads who enjoyed life together but now pulling a part because of<BR>>> differences in the way we led our lives after high school. I hear<BR>>> and<BR>>> see<BR>>> this kind of stories often and make me feel
bad about class division in<BR>>> our country.<BR>>><BR>>> I have had the privilege of deciding who my assistants should be but not<BR>>> once have I ever picked someone because we spoke the same vernacular<BR>>> language. My current office is a living example and after leading by<BR>>> example, all of my senior officers followed suit. This is how we<BR>>> should<BR>>> begin to tackle the problem of tribalism. We also must ensure<BR>>> equitable<BR>>> distribution of resources and start connecting all the counties with<BR>>> roads, energy, water, schools and hospitals. We have already<BR>>> connected<BR>>> fibre optics to all the counties and are in the process of covering the<BR>>> pockets that exist. Even with difficult times we have managed to<BR>>> balance<BR>>> infrastructure development to all parts of the
country. We shall<BR>>> continue<BR>>> with similar strategies.<BR>>><BR>>> To achieve my objectives, I take you back to building sustained regional<BR>>> influence and develop the HUB concept in everything here in Kenya.<BR>>> Transportation, ICT, Industrialization, and practically everything Hub.<BR>>> Of course some of our neighbours will feel jealous.   This is<BR>>> what we<BR>>> need<BR>>> in a sustained way because it will help galvanize Kenyans against some<BR>>> external “aggressor�. President Museveni used this<BR>>> effectively to<BR>>> get<BR>>> Ugandans behind him when he claimed Migingo as a strategy to get<BR>>> re-elected. Let us do good to the entire East Africa by building the<BR>>> rail<BR>>> up to Goma, Adis, Juba, Dar and Arusha all terminating in
Nairobi. <BR>>> We<BR>>> must build major transit and logistics airport and make it cheap to<BR>>> access<BR>>> it to all rail destinations. Develop capacity to serve the entire<BR>>> world<BR>>> back offices.   From this we shall create a pull effect on our<BR>>> agriculture. Let me not disclose the entire strategy.<BR>>><BR>>> Regards<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Ndemo.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> Bw Ps,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks for your articulative responses... Indeed looking at events<BR>>>> cutting<BR>>>> across the globe<BR>>>> now, one wakes up to a realization that we face similar socio-economic<BR>>>> challenges. Bottom<BR>>>> line, is how do we respond. And respond we must. But consequently this<BR>>>>
is<BR>>>> what makes the<BR>>>> huge difference between moving forward purposefully to achieve progress<BR>>>> and<BR>>>> backpeddling on<BR>>>> the other hand.<BR>>>><BR>>>> We'd also wish to understand what strategies would be put in place to<BR>>>> ensure<BR>>>> a balanced<BR>>>> infrastractural development across the regions. I suppose much of the<BR>>>> concentration right<BR>>>> now is around the Capital and it's environs at the expense of the rest<BR>>>> of<BR>>>> the country.<BR>>>> How about dealing with the great tribalism "monster".<BR>>>><BR>>>> 3rdly, what strategies/plans do you have in place to achieve this dream<BR>>>> you<BR>>>> have.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Harry<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From:
kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="javascript:return">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><BR>>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="javascript:return">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<BR>>>> Behalf Of <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="javascript:return">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><BR>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:32 PM<BR>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="javascript:return">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><BR>>>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="javascript:return">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><BR>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public<BR>>>> Demand<BR>>>><BR>>>> Grace,<BR>>>> Thank you for extending the debate to Monday. I hope I get
time to<BR>>>> articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next<BR>>>> few<BR>>>> years. Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing<BR>>>> with<BR>>>> our<BR>>>> social development. I went ahead and gave examples from the US and<BR>>>> UK.<BR>>>> Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come to<BR>>>> pass.<BR>>>> Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead. It<BR>>>> is<BR>>>> a<BR>>>> sacrifice one makes. In this respect, I will seek for advisors who<BR>>>> have<BR>>>> demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication. We<BR>>>> have<BR>>>> these<BR>>>> people but they
have never been given a chance to lead. The<BR>>>> constitution<BR>>>> has<BR>>>> accorded us the opportunity to search for such people.<BR>>>> If you read today's front page Standard, it has the requirement for<BR>>>> those<BR>>>> who want to join the electoral commission. If we follow the<BR>>>> requirement<BR>>>> to<BR>>>> the letter, we shall get credible people. It is this process that<BR>>>> lacked<BR>>>> before and political operatives took charge in many posts within<BR>>>> government.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered<BR>>>> under Societies Act. It is in the interest of the public that these<BR>>>> organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax<BR>>>> exempt. Tax exemption means that
we the public partly fund their<BR>>>> activities. Further the state has a responsibility to protect its<BR>>>> citizens<BR>>>> from being taken advantage of. We cannot burry our heads in the<BR>>>> sand<BR>>>> on<BR>>>> this issue no matter how sensitive it is. We shall also be<BR>>>> implementing<BR>>>> our<BR>>>> constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> Regards<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> Ndemo.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Listers<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> We have received requests (offline) that we allow "Candidate"<BR>>>>> Ndemo<BR>>>>> more time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> This is to let you know that the 'official
campaign period" has been<BR>>>>> extended up to Monday August 15, 2011.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of<BR>>>>> advisors you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear<BR>>>>> you on this one too? You also make a valid point about churches and<BR>>>>> the fact that they are not audited. I know for example in Washington<BR>>>>> DC, Parish priests have to present audited accounts to Parishoners<BR>>>>> once a year, while the Bishop fundraises through a system that is open<BR>>>>> to public scrutiny. Would you then make a policy decision on this? On<BR>>>>> a light note, may I remind you that your responses will go into the<BR>>>>> 'manifesto' and translate into more or less "votes" :)<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Listers, let the debate
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