<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Liko,<br><br>The PS is and must be party to this case before court because he sits on the CCK board...but hey, his is of age - and if he wants to blog his heart out on the issue he is free to do so. I would not want to look like his gate or mouth keeper ;-)<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <i><agostal@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand(off-topic)<br>To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 11:58 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Barrack,<br><br>Its not illegal to comment unless there is a gag order or you are a<br>party
in the case..<br><br>On this list, we continue talking about many cases ...<br><br>Again, I am not a lawyer..<br><br>Thanks<br><br>On 8/12/11, Barrack Otieno <<a ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Liko,<br>> As Walu suggests, let's avoid commenting on an issue that is before<br>> the courts, the law has a very long arm.<br>><br>> On 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <<a ymailto="mailto:agostal@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=agostal@gmail.com">agostal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Walu<br>>><br>>> Thanks for the contribution.<br>>><br>>> Daktari has made a very good and very appealing pitch .. But its about<br>>> what can be done, the Kenya we want...<br>>><br>>> As part of leadership, I would love to hear his views on this issue,<br>>> am sure Daktari has views, I would like to have them
flow<br>>><br>>> On the mailing list ..<br>>><br>>> :)<br>>><br>>> On 8/11/11, Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>> @Liko,<br>>>><br>>>> am not a lawyer but I can tell you once a matter is in court, it would be<br>>>> dangerous to comment on the same - especially for an office like the PS.<br>>>><br>>>> however, as a layman, I probably may get away with a comment or two. So<br>>>> here<br>>>> is how I see it.<br>>>> 1. Looks like this Mutoro man did indeed walk the talk and sued.<br>>>> 2. Looks like he has won round one and may as well win the next round.<br>>>> 3. HOWEVER, there's really a "new" board in place and therefore<br>>>> 4. If the issue in dispute was that the DGs appointment was irregular due<br>>>>
to<br>>>> lack of Board blessing THEN now<br>>>> 5. there's nothing that stops the "new" board from providing the said<br>>>> blessing and HENCE<br>>>> 6. projected end game: DG out for now, DG back later.<br>>>><br>>>> hmm sound like a computer program - been while since I coded :-(<br>>>><br>>>> walu.<br>>>> nb: apologies to the GG/Ndemo for the commercial break, plse continue<br>>>> with<br>>>> the Presidential manifesto topics...<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Agosta Liko <<a ymailto="mailto:agostal@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=agostal@gmail.com">agostal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> From: Agosta Liko <<a ymailto="mailto:agostal@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=agostal@gmail.com">agostal@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> Subject: Re:
[kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public<br>>>> Demand<br>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>> Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 4:49 PM<br>>>><br>>>> Dr Ndemo<br>>>><br>>>> Very illuminating thoughts :)<br>>>><br>>>> Now, tell us what is happening at CCK<br>>>><br>>>> On 8/11/11, <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>>> Grace,<br>>>>> Thank you for extending the
debate to Monday. I hope I get time to<br>>>>> articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next few<br>>>>> years. Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing with<br>>>>> our social development. I went ahead and gave examples from the US and<br>>>>> UK. Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come<br>>>>> to<br>>>>> pass. Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead. It is<br>>>>> a<br>>>>> sacrifice one makes. In this respect, I will seek for advisors who have<br>>>>> demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication. We have<br>>>>> these people but they have never been given a chance to lead.
The<br>>>>> constitution has accorded us the opportunity to search for such people.<br>>>>> If you read today’s front page Standard, it has the requirement for<br>>>>> those<br>>>>> who want to join the electoral commission. If we follow the requirement<br>>>>> to the letter, we shall get credible people. It is this process that<br>>>>> lacked before and political operatives took charge in many posts within<br>>>>> government.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered<br>>>>> under Societies Act. It is in the interest of the public that these<br>>>>> organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax<br>>>>> exempt. Tax exemption means that we the public partly fund their<br>>>>> activities. Further the
state has a responsibility to protect its<br>>>>> citizens from being taken advantage of. We cannot burry our heads in<br>>>>> the<br>>>>> sand on this issue no matter how sensitive it is. We shall also be<br>>>>> implementing our constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Regards<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Listers<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> We have received requests (offline) that we allow "Candidate" Ndemo<br>>>>>> more<br>>>>>> time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> This is to let you know that the 'official campaign period" has been<br>>>>>> extended up to Monday August
15, 2011.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of<br>>>>>> advisors<br>>>>>> you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear you on this<br>>>>>> one<br>>>>>> too? You also make a valid point about churches and the fact that they<br>>>>>> are<br>>>>>> not audited. I know for example in Washington DC, Parish priests have<br>>>>>> to<br>>>>>> present audited accounts to Parishoners once a year, while the Bishop<br>>>>>> fundraises through a system that is open to public scrutiny. Would you<br>>>>>> then make a policy decision on this? On a light note, may I remind you<br>>>>>> that your responses will go into the 'manifesto' and translate into<br>>>>>> more<br>>>>>> or less "votes"
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