<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Daktari you are right. <br><br>We need to develop a commodities exchange platform. I am looking at the County units now and the information that can be available from each of them about the resources and potentialities. I would like to understand what you were doing in Homabay and elsewhere which did not get support and how I can get involved. I am serious about creating some developing content from my village, county and the Country. I need support and guidance in this area from IT experts. <br><br>I want an intern or two who has some IT knowledge to help out with some ideas in in Nairobi and Migori for a month or two, or even more.<br><br>Oloo Janak. <br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 8/9/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <i><bitange@jambo.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left:
5px;"><br>From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>To: williamjanak@yahoo.com<br>Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 12:37 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Esther,<br>We need to develop a commodities exchange platform. This way at least<br>both the Media and other Kenyans can see that we have food and we need not<br>buy from outside only to create a glut. This is business and lots of<br>money. Any entrepreneur out there?<br><br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Ndemo.<br><br><br><br><br><br>> Yesterday I was blessed to meet with another passionate PS who seemed to<br>> talk from the same script with our PS 'President'. While he is very happy<br>> at<br>> the way Kenyans have responded to the current hunger crisis, he is pained<br>>
by<br>> the amount of food rotting in some parts of Kenya - yet no effort is being<br>> made to buy these from the hard-working farmers. By result is the farmer<br>> remains poor, and we continue buying food from across borders.<br>><br>> Do we have to flag off a truck full of food from Nairobi, when we can<br>> transport the same (or a good mix) from a location like Kitale where we<br>> have<br>> lots of maize? How can we utilize ICTs to connect farmers to markets,<br>> including reliable/affordable transporters? I am aware of a regional<br>> trading<br>> platform that was funded by USAID to help reduce food insecurity in the<br>> region. Can we have a similar one in Kenya that will help our farmers<br>> access<br>> markets? My prayer/wish is that the 'Kenyans for Kenya' money can be used<br>> to<br>> buy food from the hardworking farmers.<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=<a ymailto="mailto:andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=<a ymailto="mailto:andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<br>> Behalf Of <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:56 PM<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:emuchiri@andestbites.com" href="/mc/compose?to=emuchiri@andestbites.com">emuchiri@andestbites.com</a><br>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for<br>> President?DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>><br>> Listers,<br>> A number of you have asked me to make comments with respects to Media in<br>>
Kenya and how I see its role in the ICT sector. Media is very critical in<br>> a developing economy. They deserve greater freedom. However, just like<br>> the society we live in there are bad apples. The challenge therefore is<br>> how to distinguish bad apples from the good ones. In developed countries,<br>> ethical code of conduct is paramount.<br>><br>> Although our Media is one of the best in Africa, it is lacking in many<br>> ways and I hope they can accept criticism. They lack in research and<br>> analysis. Let me explain. Yesterday, I was lucky to get home at 9.30 and<br>> caught up with Business News. A number of journalists were interviewing<br>> the Governor of Central Bank (If he was not an academic, I would not write<br>> this). The journalists asked him if he was planning to intervene on the<br>> declining shilling. His response
was swift and short "there is nothing<br>> you do with supply side shocks". There was no follow up question. I bet<br>> 80% of TV watchers if not more had no idea with what the Governor was<br>> saying.<br>><br>> By now Media should have known that to interview someone like the Governor<br>> you need some research or send someone who can probe further. His<br>> statement was significant and indeed it affects every one of us but most<br>> people did not understand what he meant. In simple English he was saying<br>> that if you are attacked from the outside with higher prices of oil and<br>> food, there is no defense. In economic terms, he was shifting blame<br>> from a monetary policy standpoint to fiscal policy (encourage a shift from<br>> oil dependency to other oil substitutes through tax incentives). Yet<br>> whenever there is inflation followed by a risk of
wage price spiral,<br>> economic theorists recommend a raise in interest rates (a monetary policy<br>> intervention).<br>><br>> KPLC has slapped us with an oil adjustment tax at the time intense<br>> sunshine is killing livestock in the north. A good journalist should have<br>> asked Governor what in his opinion we should do as a country. I am 100%<br>> sure the Governor would have made recommendations to encourage Kenyans to<br>> invest in Solar Energy and in the meantime raised the interest rates.<br>> Better even they should have asked another economist to interpret what the<br>> Governor meant and how best we can deal with it.<br>><br>> In the same News Bulletin production of maize from the Tana Delta had<br>> trebled and farmers had nowhere to take their crop. They showed some of<br>> if rotting. One way of dealing with supply side shocks is greater<br>> productivity. This
means there will be less dollars required to pay for<br>> imports. That implies demand for dollars will drop and if that is the<br>> case, the price (or the exchange rate) should drop. Indeed the past few<br>> weeks the international price per barrel of oil has stabilized and as such<br>> the demand for dollars is not as high as it was a few weeks ago.<br>> Therefore, although the journalists had a valid question, they had not<br>> done their home work (research) to withstand the economics professor and<br>> give us a better analysis of the situation. Kenya being a net importer,<br>> it hurts us any time the shilling drops since we pay more for such things<br>> as medicine.<br>><br>> It is even more serious to continue with further imports when food supply<br>> is stabilizing from improved productivity. This would undermine local<br>> farmers to the extent that the next season they will
boycott planting<br>> since they are not able to sell their crop. This is how we create cycle<br>> of poverty. Much as we say that irrigation would help, it is not the<br>> solution. We must deal with: the greed first, post production and supply<br>> chain. It is also unfortunate that most writers keep on recommending<br>> irrigation from Lake Turkana yet from our geography we know that the lake<br>> is one of the largest saline lakes in Africa. Simple research will make<br>> us more informed. I wonder what foreigners think of us when you see so<br>> many articles in our respected newspapers peddling falsehood.<br>><br>> In It we have something we call mash up. This is where you mix several<br>> different variables in order to explain a single phenomenon. Our media<br>> lacks this completely. Take for example recent reporting on hunger.<br>> Everybody in the
world knows Turkana is in crisis where in fact the crisis<br>> covers the Northern Kenya. Northern Kenya is not Turkana and vice versa.<br>> There are people in Kacheliba and Wajir who are as hungry as those in<br>> Turkana. If you talk to politicians from the area they will tell you that<br>> we are seeing politics of 2012 and that Media is being used as attack dogs<br>> and they are not seeing it. My Minister has given a statement to this<br>> effect. Even though I am writing as "candidate" I am not political but I<br>> invite you to apply the mash up theory. It is for media to research on<br>> this, analyze recent events and inform the public.<br>><br>> In conclusion, Media has a great role to play in stabilizing our fledgling<br>> democracy. Just like every one of us they need to grow. We must give<br>> them space to nature their growth but they must do it
responsibly. They<br>> must uphold highest standards of ethics because if they fail, we shall all<br>> perish.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Regards<br>><br>><br>> Ndemo.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>> Harry,<br>>><br>>>> to rally relevant support for these projects at the grassroots level.<br>>>> Again<br>>>> it's a firm belief the much of this opposition is premised on<br>>>> ignorance,<br>>>> and<br>>>> possibly illiteracy plus meaningless local politics..<br>>><br>>> In one of my previous life and now the current job it is there in the<br>>> ToRs that I undertake extensive civic education regarding nuclear<br>>> power generation and to lobby support from key stakeholders such as<br>>> Central Organization of Trade Unions, Federation of Kenya Employers,<br>>> Kenya Association of Manufacturers, and the civil
society;<br>>><br>>> Our communications, if I take nuclear energy as an example, need not<br>>> be alarmist. During the process of planning for nuclear, it is<br>>> important that the public has to be communicated with. They are<br>>> entitled to precise, simple, accurate and accessible information. The<br>>> countries having big and successful nuclear programme have a high<br>>> levels of support from the public by constantly engaging them. It is<br>>> upon us, as Africans, to learn and adopt the experiences from these<br>>> successful countries, and determine our communication strategy to<br>>> connect and stay connected with the public. The public is the main<br>>> shareholder of the nuclear program in any country as they can make or<br>>> break the program.<br>>><br>>> So on sweeter areas like ICT which have no adverse environmental<br>>> impacts the
above should be a piece of cake! Never take people to be<br>>> ignorant, illiterate and non political! The public is the main<br>>> shareholder and they can make or break what is alien to them!<br>>><br>>> Kind regards,<br>>><br>>> David<br>>><br>>> On 8/9/11, Harry Delano <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Thank you. Hope the efforts bear fruit. Walu, pse update.<br>>>><br>>>> Let's do all that's within our means to not throw away these<br>>>> investments..<br>>>><br>>>> Where possible, as Robert suggested,I suppose a number of us would be<br>>>> willing<br>>>> to rally relevant support for these projects at the grassroots level.<br>>>> Again<br>>>> it's a firm belief the much of this
opposition is premised on<br>>>> ignorance,<br>>>> and<br>>>> possibly illiteracy plus meaningless local politics..<br>>>><br>>>> Harry<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>]<br>>>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:47 AM<br>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for<br>>>> President?DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>>><br>>>>
Harry,<br>>>> At the Konza meeting this morning I repeated what I wrote yesterday.<br>>>> Walubengo attended. Perhaps you need to write about it. The wazees<br>>>> were<br>>>> there and I sort of scolded them for letting this opportunity. I also<br>>>> asked<br>>>> IFC to follow up with them. We can try.<br>>>><br>>>> I also learnt that even after Kengen paid for the Land in Olkaria, the<br>>>> people there are demanding more since it was their ancestral land. I<br>>>> will<br>>>> never understand Kenyan people and Land.<br>>>><br>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: "Harry Delano" <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>>>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a ymailto="mailto:jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:56:59<br>>>> To: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>> Reply-To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS
Ndemo<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Am still seething....<br>>>><br>>>> Bw Ps, is there any way we can convince these investors to come back. I<br>>>> sincerely<br>>>> believe there are other potential areas they can pitch these<br>>>> investments.<br>>>> I'm sure<br>>>> a lot of us (on this list)can in a way or other get involved in<br>>>> lobbying/educating<br>>>> our local communities.<br>>>><br>>>> We need not let a tiny handful of self seekers ruin the potential that<br>>>> this<br>>>> country<br>>>> holds, esp for future generations.<br>>>><br>>>> Harry<br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<br>>>> Behalf Of lordmwesh<br>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:51 PM<br>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>>><br>>>> Dr. Ndemo,<br>>>> I believe GoK has a law allowing it to take any land, anywhere, so long<br>>>> as<br>>>> its for the common good of the whole society, and compensate the
owners<br>>>> in<br>>>> due course. With or without politics, why was this law not used?<br>>>><br>>>> We saw this law being used in to the maximum in the titanium project in<br>>>> Coast province!<br>>>><br>>>> Regards<br>>>> Lordmwesh<br>>>><br>>>> On 07/08/2011, Harry Delano <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> This is shockingly beyond belief.....!!. An injection of $1 Billion<br>>>>> worth of FDI into our economy just gone up in smoke like that out of<br>>>>> sheer politik intransigence is so appalling that any Kenyan reading<br>>>>> this should be Very Angry..!! What a missed opportunity...?<br>>>>><br>>>>> I can only sum this up in two words;
"shortsightedness and<br>>>>> selfishness.."<br>>>>><br>>>>> Unfortunately, it also seems that the "man eat man" syndrome thrives<br>>>>> in our midst with abandon, and often times now it appears, the more<br>>>>> disenfranchised the populace is in empowerment, the more the<br>>>>> opportunities arise to capitalize on their illiteracy and<br>>>>> disinformation to exploit them for our own Selfish interests; and this<br>>>>> by our so called "leaders" is so shameful..<br>>>>><br>>>>> Listers this is an eye opener, to apply ICT and ICT driven solutions<br>>>>> to disseminate information and ensure empowerment at the grassroots.<br>>>>> This is of utmost priority...<br>>>>><br>>>>> Harry<br>>>>><br>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>>> From: <a
ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>]<br>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:43 PM<br>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>>>><br>>>>> Listers,<br>>>>> Allow me to say a few things about unemployment:<br>>>>><br>>>>> >From basic economics, we know how to reduce unemployment - spend money<br>>>>>
on public investments - that is roads, rail, energy,<br>>>>> telecommunications, urban development etc and other non government<br>>>>> investments such as the new Aga Khan Hospital expansion, Delta<br>>>>> Property investments in Kenya, National Oil Refinery expansion, Kenya<br>>>>> Breweries expansion, investment in value added services etc. Creating<br>>>>> jobs in a developing country should be what Americans call a no<br>>>>> brainer. In developing countries lies many opportunities but the<br>>>>> scale<br>>>>> of<br>>>> greed far exceeds national interests.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Some three months ago, I met with top officials of Fedex, a worldwide<br>>>>> logistics company. They expressed interest in creating Kenya a<br>>>>> regional hub that would serve both Middle East, parts of Asia
and<br>>>>> Africa. They needed several acres of land within an Airport. I also<br>>>>> got wind that Boeng were considering Kenya as a regional hub for<br>>>>> Repair<br>>>> and Maintenance.<br>>>>> I liaised with IFC top officials and one VP came to see me over this<br>>>>> lucrative investment. He concurred with me that we needed a<br>>>>> Greenfield airport. I contacted my counterpart in Transport we<br>>>>> started a search for an ideal location with the help of the<br>>>>> Directorate of Civil Aviation. The result was land adjacent to Konza.<br>>>>> Quickly I called the leaders from the area including the Ranch<br>>>>> cooperative leaders. They control more than 100,000 hectares of empty<br>>>>> land. We needed only 20,000 acres for an Aerotropolis which will
have<br>>>> encompassed Konza.<br>>>>><br>>>>> IFC did not want an outright purchase of Land considering the kind of<br>>>>> publicity we went through in acquiring Konza. They offered equity in<br>>>>> the project and promised to source for the initial $1 billion to start<br>>>>> the project. They needed to start the legal process while at the same<br>>>>> time doing the feasibility study. When the feasibility study team<br>>>>> came from Washington, there was nobody to meet on the ground. We were<br>>>>> told the Chairman was consulting with the Ministry of Cooperative. I<br>>>>> followed up the matter with the Ministry and I got to know that they<br>>>>> had<br>>>> no problem.<br>>>>> The team was played around and they never got to start the<br>>>>>
feasibility. I went back to the area leadership and was told all was<br>>>>> well. Later I got to learn that some rich people wanted to buy out<br>>>>> the poor farmers then negotiate with IFC. The farmers hit the roof<br>>>>> and called an AGM. I sent my senior officers to the AGM to explain<br>>>>> this directly. Unfortunately, when they got there they were<br>>>>> threatened and asked to sit silent. The resolution on the ground was<br>>>>> to sub divide the land into two acre pieces and if anyone wanted the<br>>>> 20,000 acres they are to deal with individual owners.<br>>>>><br>>>>> In the meantime we have shelved a project that would have 1) created<br>>>>> thousands of sustainable jobs, 2) increased the value of the remaining<br>>>>> land and 3) brought good infrastructure. Leave
alone the pull effect<br>>>>> on agriculture it would have created to the poor people around the<br>>>> airport.<br>>>>> Now a Member of Parliament has asked a question to be answered in due<br>>>>> course "what the Ministry has done in securing land adjacent to Konza<br>>>>> Technology for any further Development". We cannot compulsorily<br>>>>> acquire this land since these leaders would use the same poor people<br>>>>> to create trouble. I have been warned by various leaders that such a<br>>>>> move will fail. You cannot blame the Government when the local<br>>>>> leadership cannot see opportunity or tapper their greed to allow<br>>>>> greater<br>>>> good for the greater number of people.<br>>>>><br>>>>> The causes of unemployment are not what you see in text books. It
is<br>>>>> not poverty as many academicians would tell you. It is greed, it is<br>>>>> lack of trust among those who represent people's interest, it is lack<br>>>>> of vision, it is the minimalist mentality that we have come to<br>>>>> embrace. We must move from this hopeless state to greater and<br>>>>> collective thinking. If the poor people became shareholders of such a<br>>>>> mega project, you change their lives forever, you improve your own<br>>>>> security as each one of your neighbor would have the basic needs and<br>>>>> more. Allow me to deal with other causes of unemployment then propose<br>>>> some solutions.<br>>>>><br>>>>> The rate of our population growth is worrisome. It will both impact<br>>>>> not only on food security but our future employability. The
recent<br>>>>> study on education published in the East African showed while you can<br>>>>> get good education in Kenya, it is not everybody who can access that<br>>>>> good<br>>>> education.<br>>>>> Good education comes with better chances of being employed anywhere on<br>>>>> the planet and you need to pay. Even if Free Education were to be<br>>>>> improved significantly, you need fewer numbers of children that you<br>>>>> can afford to give sufficient love. You cannot pay attention to 12<br>>>>> kids let alone understanding the psychological problems they are going<br>>>> through.<br>>>>> Parenting is a greater component in the success of any child and the<br>>>>> way you are brought up increases your chances of employability. This<br>>>>> where issues such as values come
in.<br>>>>><br>>>>> In recent years, we have messed our Education system. Like in Germany<br>>>>> we must retain tertiary institutions. This is where you get the<br>>>>> technicians to do Kazi ya Mkono. Earlier I talked of investments like<br>>>>> Aga Khan. I was deliberate because a number of jobs created by the<br>>>>> expansion will not be taken up by Kenyans. When an X-ray machine<br>>>>> breaks down, we call for technicians to come from Germany yet we have<br>>>>> thousands of trainable youth who can be able to undertake the job at<br>>>>> cheaper costs. The cost of bringing in a foreign technician is passed<br>>>>> on to the consumer. This is how India has become a cheaper<br>>>>> destination<br>>>> for mundane medical issues such as
diagnostics.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Further we say we need Nuclear plants but we have not even started to<br>>>>> build capacity. If we did start the project today, virtually all the<br>>>>> experts will be foreign. We lack a comprehensive skills inventory.<br>>>>> This will become a guide on what training we need and when we need it<br>>>>> in order to increase the number of employable youth. The Government<br>>>>> can for example provide incentives to students who study in areas that<br>>>>> are strategic to our economic development. This skills inventory<br>>>>> thing has been going on for the past four years. Although I am a<br>>>>> member of the task I am not able to impact its fast tracking and my<br>>>>> proposal of doing it via ICT did not work. Per diem requirements<br>>>>>
seems to dictate the pace. We must have the skills inventory in order<br>>>>> to<br>>>> address the labour demand-supply mismatch that ails our economy.<br>>>>><br>>>>> You cannot talk about unemployment in this country without talking<br>>>>> about Trade Unions. It is a sad picture out there. The Union<br>>>>> leadership have adopted a psychological warfare that has nothing to do<br>>>> with employment.<br>>>>> They are harsh and can destroy your reputation in a split second.<br>>>>> Media loves this and to some extent fear disclosing the rot in the<br>>>> movement.<br>>>>> Our labour leaders are some of the richest in this country. If<br>>>>> Lumumba were to mount a street protest on account of their life style<br>>>> audit, I<br>>>>> will join him. This closed
club protects firms and non performing<br>>>>> employees in equal measure. We need to be more productive to increase<br>>>>> opportunities for more jobs. The unions have not understood this<br>>>>> simple theory of labour economics. Had they allowed modern equipment<br>>>>> to pick tea in Kericho, Tea estates will be more productive and most<br>>>>> of those jobs would have shifted into value added services and<br>>>>> manufacturing. Just like the introduction of IT has increased jobs<br>>>>> better than we thought in early 80's when computers were banned.<br>>>>><br>>>>> We therefore need to quickly deal with our educational system, begin<br>>>>> to plan for future employment opportunities now, remove information<br>>>>> asymmetries that deny the poor employment opportunities, deal
with<br>>>>> labour regulation and regulatory efficiencies including trade unions,<br>>>>> as for greed we need to pray to God since sometimes you are not able<br>>>>> to understand how it attacks. In the day you have the support of all<br>>>>> the leadership while at night they undermine every move you make.<br>>>>> Overall we can deal with this menace. Get a better "Candidate" come<br>>>>> next<br>>>> year. One Kenya.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Regards<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>> Bwana Ps,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> First and foremost our condolences, for the
loss....<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Secondly, I'd really wish to commend the moderator who set this<br>>>>>> thread off.<br>>>>>> For once we have a lively healthy debate, modelled alongside the live<br>>>>>> presidential hopeful debates often times held elsewhere in more<br>>>>>> mature democracies.This is the way to go and it heralds exciting<br>>>>>> times<br>>>> ahead.<br>>>>>> I suppose this forum is so well poised to play a leading role in the<br>>>>>> National discourse aimed at building a better Kenya. So let's keep<br>>>>>> this up, and perhaps rope in the other "contenders".<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> But 3rdly, this "Sumptuous" debate is also turning out to be highly<br>>>>>> educative and hugely informational for most of our silent
listeners<br>>>>>> on the list, who are furiously "taking notes". Dr.Ndemo,many of us<br>>>>>> are just realizing to our utter amazement how much level of knowledge<br>>>>>> you possess and are willing to share, and your amount of energy is so<br>>>>>> infectious, that somehow I in my opinion feel we need not limit you<br>>>>>> to this forum,but find ways in which we can have you engage an even<br>>>>>> wider and more larger audience out here especially those from the<br>>>>>> generation Y segment. Listers any ideas...? Would Townhall style<br>>>>>> lectures suffice...? Just thinking..<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I couldn't help noticing an earlier debate touching on infrastructure<br>>>>>> and feeding our nation, and in the same vein I have also taken a hard<br>>>>>> look at the
events taking place across our country right now,and the<br>>>>>> greater horn of Africa,and it would be an understatement when I say<br>>>>>> it's really infuriating to say the least. It defeats any imagination<br>>>>>> why after independence, 51 yrs down the line we are not self<br>>>>>> sufficient in food production, with several corners of the nation<br>>>>>> marginalized such that even humanitarian aid donated by other well<br>>>>>> meaning Kenyans can not reach those who need it most because there is<br>>>>>> no infrastructure such as roads and communication to even talk about<br>>>>>> in the first place... It's maddening..<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> How do you plan to balance infrastructural development across the<br>>>>>> land, to avoid over-concentration in specific zones at the expense
of<br>>>>>> the rest...?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> At the same time, what kind/quality of advisers would you be looking<br>>>>>> for to help you shape policy/decision making.<br>>>>>> A presidency or leadership is just as good or bad as the quality of<br>>>>>> the courtiers that gather around.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Harry<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> _____<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>>>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>>>>>> On Behalf Of <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:01 PM<br>>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Aki,<br>>>>>> We are meeting Konza Technology City possible underwriters (local<br>>>>>> Banks) on Monday morning 7am at Serena. Please come. Many of the<br>>>>>> quesions you ask will be
answered then you can make a summary for the<br>>>>>> listers.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Regards<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> _____<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> From: aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:45:44 +0300<br>>>>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>>>> Cc: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving<br>>>>>> KnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Dr Ndemo,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> While we look forward to a comprehensive response on the High Tech<br>>>>>> Sector/ Malili as soon as you have some time, I believe that you<br>>>>>> mentioned that completion is about 3 years away. That seems is not a<br>>>>>> lot of time to get e.g at least 50 companies who have significant<br>>>>>> turnovers coming close to about Kshs 500 million with a % on exports.<br>>>>>> I think there may be a need for a review. I already read that IBM<br>>>>>> super-team is in the country and done some indepth research
and<br>>>>>> assessment into e-Govt, it maybe a good time to ask them to re-access<br>>>>>> the current trends. Mobile, Web and Social technologiy development<br>>>>>> platforms trends may only produce slim domestic interest with<br>>>>>> extremely small turnovers and virtually impossible that either can<br>>>>>> later contribute to significant economic growth.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> There could an alternative which would be to look at Comesa/Igad or<br>>>>>> other markets within our region, create Govt/Private ICT or other<br>>>>>> sector development action groups to be based at Malili which would<br>>>>>> also provide Venture Capitalists/Investors an avenue for serious<br>>>>>> interests. I've had a look at very basic Comesa data, seems<br>>>>>> Agricultural engineering would do
well here. I think JUKAT has the<br>>>>>> foundations of producing such engineers.<br>>>>>> However, there is not enough data to full research what Agricultural<br>>>>>> Engineering and ICT development can do.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Also the topic of electricity generation has raised a manufacturing<br>>>>>> interest. Is any Kenyan company manufacturing the High Voltage Lines<br>>>>>> insulators ( ceramic/glass based in many cases ) or are we importing<br>>>>>> these?<br>>>>>> Each High/Low Power line on every mounted pole needs these isolators.<br>>>>>> <a href="http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators" target="_blank">http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators</a><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Thank you.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
Rgds.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Thank you Dr Ndemo, and will await to read the comprehensive<br>>>>>> response.<br>>>>>> :-)<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Aki,<br>>>>>> Whereas by chance one of the aaplications developed here may become a<br>>>>>> global brand, we do not want to leave to chance. That is why we
are<br>>>>>> developing centers of excellency, standards and incubators to make<br>>>>>> sure we part of global standards. There is much learning that we must<br>>>>>> go through. The reason we should seek to collaborate while guarding<br>>>>>> our inventions.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> As I write, we are working on a digital economy policy. We shall come<br>>>>>> up with a specific legislation in this emerging sector. Create<br>>>>>> special incentives that would propel it to greater levels.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> We also must deal with Universities inorder to create the triple<br>>>>>> helix that has worked in many parts of the world. Strathmore is<br>>>>>> leading in the right direction. We want to fully their patnership<br>>>>>> with Sumsang and
Safaricom.<br>>>>>> Through such arrangement we create capacities that lead to new other<br>>>>>> enterprises.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> This is an area I have the greatest interest and would want to<br>>>>>> explore. I am using the annoying Blackberry so please allow me to<br>>>>>> respond more comprehensively when I get to a real keyboard.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> _____<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> From: aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>>> Date: Fri,
5 Aug 2011 09:13:11 +0300<br>>>>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>>>> Cc: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving Knowledge<br>>>>>> Economy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Dr Ndemo,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I have a final question on regarding the creation of the High Tech<br>>>>>> Sector in preparation for Malili. While cheaper rent or<br>>>>>> infrastructure facilities maybe an additional advantage, I think we<br>>>>>> are still to find a way to push private sector and
govt<br>>>>>> incentives/policies on creating the High Tech Sector. I believe we<br>>>>>> are no where at the moment, neither the mobile or web development<br>>>>>> sectors even come close to becoming the next billion shilling<br>>>>>> industry sectors. These two sectors are in a transition mode where<br>>>>>> the<br>>>> demand is for more localised settings.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> What will the govt do to ensure that kenyan companies start looking<br>>>>>> at holding patents and developing the needs of external markets based<br>>>>>> on technology trends. I think the last thing we would want to see is<br>>>>>> a scenario where kenyans in ICT become more of daily wage labourers<br>>>>>> on contract basis.<br>>>>>> While this may seem an ideal employment creation scenario,
the<br>>>>>> results will be negative in the long term.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> What steps and incentives will create the High Tech Sector companies<br>>>>>> and will opening up the development of critical govt sectors offer an<br>>>>>> incentive to create broad based technologies?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Thank you.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Rgds.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------<br>>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>>>>>> <<a href="http://www.mail.jambo.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.mail.jambo.co.ke/</a>> Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to<br>>>>>> be
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