<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Bw. PS, mine is just comment,<br><br>I do agree the media more often than not fails society - even though they do claim they are only a reflection of the said society i.e they give us what we want to hear. I for one has always been annoyed by they way they abuse statistics with their so popular call in/sms vote-on-the-issue-of-the day. By the end of the newscast they give "authoritative" tallys of say 10% for vs 80% against the issue. What they never tell you is 10% of what? could be 10% of just 20votes but is broadcasted with finality as if to imply 10% of Kenyans...No wonder some MPs wanted to regulate the statistics portion of media. Tall order, but I do understand where they maybe coming from.<br><br>That said, there are few media houses that attempt to give us what we need to know- rather than what we want to hear(gossip); I
think we should strive to encourage them because more often than not, what we need to know rarely sells as fast as what we want to hear.<br><br>walu. <br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 8/9/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <i><bitange@jambo.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 2:55 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Listers,<br>A number of you have asked me to make comments with respects to Media in<br>Kenya and how I see its role in the ICT sector. Media is very critical in<br>a developing economy. They deserve greater freedom. However, just like<br>the society
we live in there are bad apples. The challenge therefore is<br>how to distinguish bad apples from the good ones. In developed countries,<br>ethical code of conduct is paramount.<br><br>Although our Media is one of the best in Africa, it is lacking in many<br>ways and I hope they can accept criticism. They lack in research and<br>analysis. Let me explain. Yesterday, I was lucky to get home at 9.30 and<br>caught up with Business News. A number of journalists were interviewing<br>the Governor of Central Bank (If he was not an academic, I would not write<br>this). The journalists asked him if he was planning to intervene on the<br>declining shilling. His response was swift and short “there is nothing<br>you do with supply side shocks”. There was no follow up question. I bet<br>80% of TV watchers if not more had no idea with what the Governor was<br>saying.<br><br>By now Media should have known
that to interview someone like the Governor<br>you need some research or send someone who can probe further. His<br>statement was significant and indeed it affects every one of us but most<br>people did not understand what he meant. In simple English he was saying<br>that if you are attacked from the outside with higher prices of oil and<br>food, there is no defense. In economic terms, he was shifting blame<br>from a monetary policy standpoint to fiscal policy (encourage a shift from<br>oil dependency to other oil substitutes through tax incentives). Yet<br>whenever there is inflation followed by a risk of wage price spiral,<br>economic theorists recommend a raise in interest rates (a monetary policy<br>intervention).<br><br>KPLC has slapped us with an oil adjustment tax at the time intense<br>sunshine is killing livestock in the north. A good journalist should have<br>asked Governor what in his opinion we
should do as a country. I am 100%<br>sure the Governor would have made recommendations to encourage Kenyans to<br>invest in Solar Energy and in the meantime raised the interest rates. <br>Better even they should have asked another economist to interpret what the<br>Governor meant and how best we can deal with it.<br><br>In the same News Bulletin production of maize from the Tana Delta had<br>trebled and farmers had nowhere to take their crop. They showed some of<br>if rotting. One way of dealing with supply side shocks is greater<br>productivity. This means there will be less dollars required to pay for<br>imports. That implies demand for dollars will drop and if that is the<br>case, the price (or the exchange rate) should drop. Indeed the past few<br>weeks the international price per barrel of oil has stabilized and as such<br>the demand for dollars is not as high as it was a few weeks ago. <br>Therefore, although
the journalists had a valid question, they had not<br>done their home work (research) to withstand the economics professor and<br>give us a better analysis of the situation. Kenya being a net importer,<br>it hurts us any time the shilling drops since we pay more for such things<br>as medicine.<br><br>It is even more serious to continue with further imports when food supply<br>is stabilizing from improved productivity. This would undermine local<br>farmers to the extent that the next season they will boycott planting<br>since they are not able to sell their crop. This is how we create cycle<br>of poverty. Much as we say that irrigation would help, it is not the<br>solution. We must deal with: the greed first, post production and supply<br>chain. It is also unfortunate that most writers keep on recommending<br>irrigation from Lake Turkana yet from our geography we know that the lake<br>is one of the largest saline lakes
in Africa. Simple research will make<br>us more informed. I wonder what foreigners think of us when you see so<br>many articles in our respected newspapers peddling falsehood.<br><br>In It we have something we call mash up. This is where you mix several<br>different variables in order to explain a single phenomenon. Our media<br>lacks this completely. Take for example recent reporting on hunger. <br>Everybody in the world knows Turkana is in crisis where in fact the crisis<br>covers the Northern Kenya. Northern Kenya is not Turkana and vice versa. <br>There are people in Kacheliba and Wajir who are as hungry as those in<br>Turkana. If you talk to politicians from the area they will tell you that<br>we are seeing politics of 2012 and that Media is being used as attack dogs<br>and they are not seeing it. My Minister has given a statement to this<br>effect. Even though I am writing as
“candidate” I am not political but I<br>invite you to apply the mash up theory. It is for media to research on<br>this, analyze recent events and inform the public.<br><br>In conclusion, Media has a great role to play in stabilizing our fledgling<br>democracy. Just like every one of us they need to grow. We must give<br>them space to nature their growth but they must do it responsibly. They<br>must uphold highest standards of ethics because if they fail, we shall all<br>perish.<br><br><br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Ndemo.<br><br><br><br><br><br>> Harry,<br>><br>>> to rally relevant support for these projects at the grassroots level.<br>>> Again<br>>> it's a firm belief the much of this opposition is premised on ignorance,<br>>> and<br>>> possibly illiteracy plus meaningless local politics..<br>><br>> In one of my previous life and now the current job it is there in the<br>> ToRs that I
undertake extensive civic education regarding nuclear<br>> power generation and to lobby support from key stakeholders such as<br>> Central Organization of Trade Unions, Federation of Kenya Employers,<br>> Kenya Association of Manufacturers, and the civil society;<br>><br>> Our communications, if I take nuclear energy as an example, need not<br>> be alarmist. During the process of planning for nuclear, it is<br>> important that the public has to be communicated with. They are<br>> entitled to precise, simple, accurate and accessible information. The<br>> countries having big and successful nuclear programme have a high<br>> levels of support from the public by constantly engaging them. It is<br>> upon us, as Africans, to learn and adopt the experiences from these<br>> successful countries, and determine our communication strategy to<br>> connect and stay connected with the public. The public is the
main<br>> shareholder of the nuclear program in any country as they can make or<br>> break the program.<br>><br>> So on sweeter areas like ICT which have no adverse environmental<br>> impacts the above should be a piece of cake! Never take people to be<br>> ignorant, illiterate and non political! The public is the main<br>> shareholder and they can make or break what is alien to them!<br>><br>> Kind regards,<br>><br>> David<br>><br>> On 8/9/11, Harry Delano <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>> Thank you. Hope the efforts bear fruit. Walu, pse update.<br>>><br>>> Let's do all that's within our means to not throw away these<br>>> investments..<br>>><br>>> Where possible, as Robert suggested,I suppose a number of us would be<br>>> willing<br>>> to rally
relevant support for these projects at the grassroots level.<br>>> Again<br>>> it's a firm belief the much of this opposition is premised on ignorance,<br>>> and<br>>> possibly illiteracy plus meaningless local politics..<br>>><br>>> Harry<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>]<br>>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:47 AM<br>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for<br>>> President?DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith
PS Ndemo<br>>><br>>> Harry,<br>>> At the Konza meeting this morning I repeated what I wrote yesterday.<br>>> Walubengo attended. Perhaps you need to write about it. The wazees<br>>> were<br>>> there and I sort of scolded them for letting this opportunity. I also<br>>> asked<br>>> IFC to follow up with them. We can try.<br>>><br>>> I also learnt that even after Kengen paid for the Land in Olkaria, the<br>>> people there are demanding more since it was their ancestral land. I<br>>> will<br>>> never understand Kenyan people and Land.<br>>><br>>> Ndemo.<br>>><br>>><br>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: "Harry Delano" <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>>> Sender:
kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a ymailto="mailto:jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:56:59<br>>> To: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>> Reply-To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>><br>>><br>>> Am still seething....<br>>><br>>> Bw Ps, is there any way we can convince these investors to come back.
I<br>>> sincerely<br>>> believe there are other potential areas they can pitch these<br>>> investments.<br>>> I'm sure<br>>> a lot of us (on this list)can in a way or other get involved in<br>>> lobbying/educating<br>>> our local communities.<br>>><br>>> We need not let a tiny handful of self seekers ruin the potential that<br>>> this<br>>> country<br>>> holds, esp for future generations.<br>>><br>>> Harry<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<br>>> Behalf
Of lordmwesh<br>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:51 PM<br>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>><br>>> Dr. Ndemo,<br>>> I believe GoK has a law allowing it to take any land, anywhere, so long<br>>> as<br>>> its for the common good of the whole society, and compensate the owners<br>>> in<br>>> due course. With or without politics, why was this law not used?<br>>><br>>> We saw this law being used in to the maximum in the titanium project in<br>>> Coast province!<br>>><br>>> Regards<br>>> Lordmwesh<br>>><br>>> On 07/08/2011, Harry Delano <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> This is shockingly beyond belief.....!!. An injection of $1 Billion<br>>>> worth of FDI into our economy just gone up in smoke like that out of<br>>>> sheer politik intransigence is so appalling that any Kenyan reading<br>>>> this should be Very Angry..!! What a missed opportunity...?<br>>>><br>>>> I can only sum this up in two words; "shortsightedness and<br>>>> selfishness.."<br>>>><br>>>> Unfortunately, it also seems that the "man eat man" syndrome thrives<br>>>> in our midst with abandon, and often times now it appears, the more<br>>>> disenfranchised the populace is in empowerment, the more the<br>>>> opportunities arise to capitalize on their illiteracy and<br>>>> disinformation to exploit them for our own Selfish
interests; and this<br>>>> by our so called "leaders" is so shameful..<br>>>><br>>>> Listers this is an eye opener, to apply ICT and ICT driven solutions<br>>>> to disseminate information and ensure empowerment at the grassroots.<br>>>> This is of utmost priority...<br>>>><br>>>> Harry<br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>]<br>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:43 PM<br>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<br>>>><br>>>> Listers,<br>>>> Allow me to say a few things about unemployment:<br>>>><br>>>> From basic economics, we know how to reduce unemployment - spend money<br>>>> on public investments - that is roads, rail, energy,<br>>>> telecommunications, urban development etc and other non government<br>>>> investments such as the new Aga Khan Hospital expansion, Delta<br>>>> Property investments in Kenya, National Oil Refinery expansion, Kenya<br>>>> Breweries expansion, investment in value added services etc. Creating<br>>>> jobs in a developing country should be what Americans call a no<br>>>> brainer. In developing countries lies many
opportunities but the scale<br>>>> of<br>>> greed far exceeds national interests.<br>>>><br>>>> Some three months ago, I met with top officials of Fedex, a worldwide<br>>>> logistics company. They expressed interest in creating Kenya a<br>>>> regional hub that would serve both Middle East, parts of Asia and<br>>>> Africa. They needed several acres of land within an Airport. I also<br>>>> got wind that Boeng were considering Kenya as a regional hub for Repair<br>>> and Maintenance.<br>>>> I liaised with IFC top officials and one VP came to see me over this<br>>>> lucrative investment. He concurred with me that we needed a<br>>>> Greenfield airport. I contacted my counterpart in Transport we<br>>>> started a search for an ideal location with the help of the<br>>>> Directorate of Civil Aviation.
The result was land adjacent to Konza.<br>>>> Quickly I called the leaders from the area including the Ranch<br>>>> cooperative leaders. They control more than 100,000 hectares of empty<br>>>> land. We needed only 20,000 acres for an Aerotropolis which will have<br>>> encompassed Konza.<br>>>><br>>>> IFC did not want an outright purchase of Land considering the kind of<br>>>> publicity we went through in acquiring Konza. They offered equity in<br>>>> the project and promised to source for the initial $1 billion to start<br>>>> the project. They needed to start the legal process while at the same<br>>>> time doing the feasibility study. When the feasibility study team<br>>>> came from Washington, there was nobody to meet on the ground. We were<br>>>> told the Chairman was consulting with the Ministry of
Cooperative. I<br>>>> followed up the matter with the Ministry and I got to know that they<br>>>> had<br>>> no problem.<br>>>> The team was played around and they never got to start the<br>>>> feasibility. I went back to the area leadership and was told all was<br>>>> well. Later I got to learn that some rich people wanted to buy out<br>>>> the poor farmers then negotiate with IFC. The farmers hit the roof<br>>>> and called an AGM. I sent my senior officers to the AGM to explain<br>>>> this directly. Unfortunately, when they got there they were<br>>>> threatened and asked to sit silent. The resolution on the ground was<br>>>> to sub divide the land into two acre pieces and if anyone wanted the<br>>> 20,000 acres they are to deal with individual owners.<br>>>><br>>>> In the meantime we have
shelved a project that would have 1) created<br>>>> thousands of sustainable jobs, 2) increased the value of the remaining<br>>>> land and 3) brought good infrastructure. Leave alone the pull effect<br>>>> on agriculture it would have created to the poor people around the<br>>> airport.<br>>>> Now a Member of Parliament has asked a question to be answered in due<br>>>> course "what the Ministry has done in securing land adjacent to Konza<br>>>> Technology for any further Development". We cannot compulsorily<br>>>> acquire this land since these leaders would use the same poor people<br>>>> to create trouble. I have been warned by various leaders that such a<br>>>> move will fail. You cannot blame the Government when the local<br>>>> leadership cannot see opportunity or tapper their greed to allow<br>>>> greater<br>>> good
for the greater number of people.<br>>>><br>>>> The causes of unemployment are not what you see in text books. It is<br>>>> not poverty as many academicians would tell you. It is greed, it is<br>>>> lack of trust among those who represent people's interest, it is lack<br>>>> of vision, it is the minimalist mentality that we have come to<br>>>> embrace. We must move from this hopeless state to greater and<br>>>> collective thinking. If the poor people became shareholders of such a<br>>>> mega project, you change their lives forever, you improve your own<br>>>> security as each one of your neighbor would have the basic needs and<br>>>> more. Allow me to deal with other causes of unemployment then propose<br>>> some solutions.<br>>>><br>>>> The rate of our population growth is worrisome. It will both
impact<br>>>> not only on food security but our future employability. The recent<br>>>> study on education published in the East African showed while you can<br>>>> get good education in Kenya, it is not everybody who can access that<br>>>> good<br>>> education.<br>>>> Good education comes with better chances of being employed anywhere on<br>>>> the planet and you need to pay. Even if Free Education were to be<br>>>> improved significantly, you need fewer numbers of children that you<br>>>> can afford to give sufficient love. You cannot pay attention to 12<br>>>> kids let alone understanding the psychological problems they are going<br>>> through.<br>>>> Parenting is a greater component in the success of any child and the<br>>>> way you are brought up increases your chances of employability. This<br>>>>
where issues such as values come in.<br>>>><br>>>> In recent years, we have messed our Education system. Like in Germany<br>>>> we must retain tertiary institutions. This is where you get the<br>>>> technicians to do Kazi ya Mkono. Earlier I talked of investments like<br>>>> Aga Khan. I was deliberate because a number of jobs created by the<br>>>> expansion will not be taken up by Kenyans. When an X-ray machine<br>>>> breaks down, we call for technicians to come from Germany yet we have<br>>>> thousands of trainable youth who can be able to undertake the job at<br>>>> cheaper costs. The cost of bringing in a foreign technician is passed<br>>>> on to the consumer. This is how India has become a cheaper destination<br>>> for mundane medical issues such as diagnostics.<br>>>><br>>>> Further we say we
need Nuclear plants but we have not even started to<br>>>> build capacity. If we did start the project today, virtually all the<br>>>> experts will be foreign. We lack a comprehensive skills inventory.<br>>>> This will become a guide on what training we need and when we need it<br>>>> in order to increase the number of employable youth. The Government<br>>>> can for example provide incentives to students who study in areas that<br>>>> are strategic to our economic development. This skills inventory<br>>>> thing has been going on for the past four years. Although I am a<br>>>> member of the task I am not able to impact its fast tracking and my<br>>>> proposal of doing it via ICT did not work. Per diem requirements<br>>>> seems to dictate the pace. We must have the skills inventory in order<br>>>> to<br>>>
address the labour demand-supply mismatch that ails our economy.<br>>>><br>>>> You cannot talk about unemployment in this country without talking<br>>>> about Trade Unions. It is a sad picture out there. The Union<br>>>> leadership have adopted a psychological warfare that has nothing to do<br>>> with employment.<br>>>> They are harsh and can destroy your reputation in a split second.<br>>>> Media loves this and to some extent fear disclosing the rot in the<br>>> movement.<br>>>> Our labour leaders are some of the richest in this country. If<br>>>> Lumumba were to mount a street protest on account of their life style<br>>> audit, I<br>>>> will join him. This closed club protects firms and non performing<br>>>> employees in equal measure. We need to be more productive to increase<br>>>> opportunities
for more jobs. The unions have not understood this<br>>>> simple theory of labour economics. Had they allowed modern equipment<br>>>> to pick tea in Kericho, Tea estates will be more productive and most<br>>>> of those jobs would have shifted into value added services and<br>>>> manufacturing. Just like the introduction of IT has increased jobs<br>>>> better than we thought in early 80's when computers were banned.<br>>>><br>>>> We therefore need to quickly deal with our educational system, begin<br>>>> to plan for future employment opportunities now, remove information<br>>>> asymmetries that deny the poor employment opportunities, deal with<br>>>> labour regulation and regulatory efficiencies including trade unions,<br>>>> as for greed we need to pray to God since sometimes you are not able<br>>>> to understand how it
attacks. In the day you have the support of all<br>>>> the leadership while at night they undermine every move you make.<br>>>> Overall we can deal with this menace. Get a better "Candidate" come<br>>>> next<br>>> year. One Kenya.<br>>>><br>>>> Regards<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> Bwana Ps,<br>>>>><br>>>>> First and foremost our condolences, for the loss....<br>>>>><br>>>>> Secondly, I'd really wish to commend the moderator who set this<br>>>>> thread off.<br>>>>> For once we have a lively healthy debate, modelled alongside the live<br>>>>> presidential hopeful debates often times held elsewhere in more<br>>>>> mature
democracies.This is the way to go and it heralds exciting times<br>>> ahead.<br>>>>> I suppose this forum is so well poised to play a leading role in the<br>>>>> National discourse aimed at building a better Kenya. So let's keep<br>>>>> this up, and perhaps rope in the other "contenders".<br>>>>><br>>>>> But 3rdly, this "Sumptuous" debate is also turning out to be highly<br>>>>> educative and hugely informational for most of our silent listeners<br>>>>> on the list, who are furiously "taking notes". Dr.Ndemo,many of us<br>>>>> are just realizing to our utter amazement how much level of knowledge<br>>>>> you possess and are willing to share, and your amount of energy is so<br>>>>> infectious, that somehow I in my opinion feel we need not limit you<br>>>>> to this forum,but find ways in which we can have you engage an
even<br>>>>> wider and more larger audience out here especially those from the<br>>>>> generation Y segment. Listers any ideas...? Would Townhall style<br>>>>> lectures suffice...? Just thinking..<br>>>>><br>>>>> I couldn't help noticing an earlier debate touching on infrastructure<br>>>>> and feeding our nation, and in the same vein I have also taken a hard<br>>>>> look at the events taking place across our country right now,and the<br>>>>> greater horn of Africa,and it would be an understatement when I say<br>>>>> it's really infuriating to say the least. It defeats any imagination<br>>>>> why after independence, 51 yrs down the line we are not self<br>>>>> sufficient in food production, with several corners of the nation<br>>>>> marginalized such that even humanitarian aid donated by other
well<br>>>>> meaning Kenyans can not reach those who need it most because there is<br>>>>> no infrastructure such as roads and communication to even talk about<br>>>>> in the first place... It's maddening..<br>>>>><br>>>>> How do you plan to balance infrastructural development across the<br>>>>> land, to avoid over-concentration in specific zones at the expense of<br>>>>> the rest...?<br>>>>><br>>>>> At the same time, what kind/quality of advisers would you be looking<br>>>>> for to help you shape policy/decision making.<br>>>>> A presidency or leadership is just as good or bad as the quality of<br>>>>> the courtiers that gather around.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Harry<br>>>>><br>>>>> _____<br>>>>><br>>>>> From:
kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>>>>> On Behalf Of <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:01 PM<br>>>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?<br>>>>> DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS
Ndemo<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Aki,<br>>>>> We are meeting Konza Technology City possible underwriters (local<br>>>>> Banks) on Monday morning 7am at Serena. Please come. Many of the<br>>>>> quesions you ask will be answered then you can make a summary for the<br>>>>> listers.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Regards<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>>>><br>>>>> _____<br>>>>><br>>>>> From: aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:45:44 +0300<br>>>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>>> Cc: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving<br>>>>> KnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Dr Ndemo,<br>>>>><br>>>>> While we look forward to a comprehensive response on the High Tech<br>>>>> Sector/ Malili as soon as you have some time, I believe that you<br>>>>> mentioned that completion is about 3 years away. That seems is not a<br>>>>> lot of time to get e.g at least 50 companies who have significant<br>>>>> turnovers coming close to about Kshs 500 million with a % on exports.<br>>>>> I think there may be a need for a review. I
already read that IBM<br>>>>> super-team is in the country and done some indepth research and<br>>>>> assessment into e-Govt, it maybe a good time to ask them to re-access<br>>>>> the current trends. Mobile, Web and Social technologiy development<br>>>>> platforms trends may only produce slim domestic interest with<br>>>>> extremely small turnovers and virtually impossible that either can<br>>>>> later contribute to significant economic growth.<br>>>>><br>>>>> There could an alternative which would be to look at Comesa/Igad or<br>>>>> other markets within our region, create Govt/Private ICT or other<br>>>>> sector development action groups to be based at Malili which would<br>>>>> also provide Venture Capitalists/Investors an avenue for serious<br>>>>> interests. I've had a look at very basic Comesa data,
seems<br>>>>> Agricultural engineering would do well here. I think JUKAT has the<br>>>>> foundations of producing such engineers.<br>>>>> However, there is not enough data to full research what Agricultural<br>>>>> Engineering and ICT development can do.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Also the topic of electricity generation has raised a manufacturing<br>>>>> interest. Is any Kenyan company manufacturing the High Voltage Lines<br>>>>> insulators ( ceramic/glass based in many cases ) or are we importing<br>>>>> these?<br>>>>> Each High/Low Power line on every mounted pole needs these isolators.<br>>>>> <a href="http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators" target="_blank">http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators</a><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Thank you.<br>>>>><br>>>>>
Rgds.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Thank you Dr Ndemo, and will await to read the comprehensive response.<br>>>>> :-)<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Aki,<br>>>>> Whereas by chance one of the aaplications developed here may become a<br>>>>> global brand, we do not want to leave to chance. That is why we are<br>>>>> developing centers of excellency, standards and incubators to
make<br>>>>> sure we part of global standards. There is much learning that we must<br>>>>> go through. The reason we should seek to collaborate while guarding<br>>>>> our inventions.<br>>>>><br>>>>> As I write, we are working on a digital economy policy. We shall come<br>>>>> up with a specific legislation in this emerging sector. Create<br>>>>> special incentives that would propel it to greater levels.<br>>>>><br>>>>> We also must deal with Universities inorder to create the triple<br>>>>> helix that has worked in many parts of the world. Strathmore is<br>>>>> leading in the right direction. We want to fully their patnership<br>>>>> with Sumsang and Safaricom.<br>>>>> Through such arrangement we create capacities that lead to new other<br>>>>>
enterprises.<br>>>>><br>>>>> This is an area I have the greatest interest and would want to<br>>>>> explore. I am using the annoying Blackberry so please allow me to<br>>>>> respond more comprehensively when I get to a real keyboard.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR<br>>>>><br>>>>> _____<br>>>>><br>>>>> From: aki <<a ymailto="mailto:aki275@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:13:11 +0300<br>>>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>>> Cc: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving Knowledge<br>>>>> Economy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo<br>>>>><br>>>>> Dr Ndemo,<br>>>>><br>>>>> I have a final question on regarding the creation of the High Tech<br>>>>> Sector in preparation for Malili. While cheaper rent or<br>>>>> infrastructure facilities maybe an additional advantage, I think we<br>>>>> are still to find a way to push private sector and govt<br>>>>> incentives/policies on creating the High Tech Sector. I believe we<br>>>>> are no where at the moment, neither the mobile or web development<br>>>>>
sectors even come close to becoming the next billion shilling<br>>>>> industry sectors. These two sectors are in a transition mode where the<br>>> demand is for more localised settings.<br>>>>><br>>>>> What will the govt do to ensure that kenyan companies start looking<br>>>>> at holding patents and developing the needs of external markets based<br>>>>> on technology trends. I think the last thing we would want to see is<br>>>>> a scenario where kenyans in ICT become more of daily wage labourers<br>>>>> on contract basis.<br>>>>> While this may seem an ideal employment creation scenario, the<br>>>>> results will be negative in the long term.<br>>>>><br>>>>> What steps and incentives will create the High Tech Sector companies<br>>>>> and will opening up the development of critical govt sectors offer
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