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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Bwana Ps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>First and foremost our condolences, for the
loss....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Secondly, I'd really wish to commend the moderator
who set this thread off. For once we have a lively healthy
debate,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>modelled alongside</FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>the live presidential hopeful debates often times held
elsewhere in more mature democracies.This</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>is the way to go and it heralds exciting times ahead. I
suppose this forum is so well poised to play a leading role in the
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>National discourse aimed at </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>building a better
Kenya. So let's keep this up, and perhaps rope in the other
"contenders".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>But 3rdly, this "Sumptuous" debate is also turning out to
be highly educative and hugely informational for most of our
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>silent </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>listeners </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>on </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>the
list, who are furiously "taking notes". Dr.Ndemo,many of us are just
realizing to our utter </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>amazement
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>how </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>much </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>level </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>of knowledge
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>you </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>possess and are willing to share, and your amount of energy is
so infectious, that somehow I </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>in </FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>my opinion feel we need not limit
you to this forum,but find ways in which we can have you engage an
even wider and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>more larger
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>audience
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>out here
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>especially those from the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>generation Y segment. Listers any
ideas...? Would Townhall </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>style
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>lectures </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>suffice...? Just
thinking..</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>I couldn't help noticing an earlier debate touching on
infrastructure and feeding our nation, and in the same vein I have
also</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>taken a hard look at the events taking
place across our country right now,and the greater horn of Africa,and
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>it would
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>be an
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>understatement when I say it's really infuriating
to say the least. It defeats any imagination why after independence, 51 yrs
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>down the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>line
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>we are not self sufficient in food
production, with several corners of the nation marginalized such that even
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>h</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>umanitarian
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>aid
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>donated by other well meaning
Kenyans can not reach those who need it most because there is
no </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>infrastructure such
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=500140619-06082011>as roads and communication to
even talk about in the first place... It's
maddening..</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>How do you plan to balance infrastructural development
across the land, to avoid over-concentration in specific zones
at</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>the expense of the
rest...?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>At the same time, what kind/quality of advisers would
you be looking for to help you shape policy/decision making.
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011>A presidency or leadership is just as good or bad as
the quality of the courtiers that gather
around.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=500140619-06082011></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=500140619-06082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>bitange@jambo.co.ke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?
DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Aki,<BR>We are meeting Konza Technology City possible underwriters
(local Banks) on Monday morning 7am at Serena. Please come. Many of the quesions
you ask will be answered then you can make a summary for the
listers.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR><BR>Ndemo.<BR><BR>
<P>Sent from my BlackBerry®</P>
<HR>
<DIV><B>From: </B>aki <aki275@gmail.com> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:45:44 +0300</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc: </B><bitange@jambo.co.ke></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving
KnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Dr Ndemo,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>While we look forward to a comprehensive response on the High Tech Sector/
Malili as soon as you have some time, I believe that you mentioned that
completion is about 3 years away. That seems is not a lot of time to get e.g at
least 50 companies who have significant turnovers coming close to about Kshs 500
million with a % on exports. I think there may be a need for a review. I
already read that IBM super-team is in the country and done some indepth
research and assessment into e-Govt, it maybe a good time to ask them to
re-access the current trends. Mobile, Web and Social technologiy development
platforms trends may only produce slim domestic interest with
extremely small turnovers and virtually impossible that either can later
contribute to significant economic growth. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There could an alternative which would be to look at Comesa/Igad or other
markets within our region, create Govt/Private ICT or other
sector development action groups to be based at Malili which would
also provide Venture Capitalists/Investors an avenue for serious interests.
I've had a look at very basic Comesa data, seems Agricultural engineering would
do well here. I think JUKAT has the foundations of producing such engineers.
However, there is not enough data to full research what Agricultural
Engineering and ICT development can do. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also the topic of electricity generation has raised a manufacturing
interest. Is any Kenyan company manufacturing the High Voltage
Lines insulators ( ceramic/glass based in many cases ) or are we
importing these? Each High/Low Power line on every mounted pole needs
these isolators. <A
href="http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators">http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rgds.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aki <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=gmail_quote>
<DIV>Thank you Dr Ndemo, and will await to read the comprehensive response.
:-)</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=h5>
<P> </P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
target=_blank>bitange@jambo.co.ke</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=gmail_quote><U></U>Aki,<BR>Whereas by chance one of the aaplications
developed here may become a global brand, we do not want to leave to chance.
That is why we are developing centers of excellency, standards and
incubators to make sure we part of global standards. There is much learning
that we must go through. The reason we should seek to collaborate while
guarding our inventions.<BR><BR>As I write, we are working on a digital
economy policy. We shall come up with a specific legislation in this
emerging sector. Create special incentives that would propel it to greater
levels.<BR><BR>We also must deal with Universities inorder to create the
triple helix that has worked in many parts of the world. Strathmore is
leading in the right direction. We want to fully their patnership with
Sumsang and Safaricom. Through such arrangement we create capacities that
lead to new other enterprises.<BR><BR>This is an area I have the greatest
interest and would want to explore. I am using the annoying Blackberry so
please allow me to respond more comprehensively when I get to a real
keyboard.
<DIV><BR><BR><BR>Ndemo.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<P>Sent from my BlackBerry®</P></DIV>
<HR>
<DIV><B>From: </B>aki <<A href="mailto:aki275@gmail.com"
target=_blank>aki275@gmail.com</A>> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:13:11 +0300</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<A
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>></DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc: </B><<A href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
target=_blank>bitange@jambo.co.ke</A>></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving Knowledge
Economy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Dr Ndemo, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have a final question on regarding the creation of the High Tech
Sector in preparation for Malili. While cheaper rent or infrastructure
facilities maybe an additional advantage, I think we are still to find a way
to push private sector and govt incentives/policies on creating the High
Tech Sector. I believe we are no where at the moment, neither the mobile or
web development sectors even come close to becoming the next billion
shilling industry sectors. These two sectors are in a transition mode where
the demand is for more localised settings.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What will the govt do to ensure that kenyan companies start looking at
holding patents and developing the needs of external markets based on
technology trends. I think the last thing we would want to see is a scenario
where kenyans in ICT become more of daily wage labourers on contract basis.
While this may seem an ideal employment creation scenario, the results
will be negative in the long term. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What steps and incentives will create the High Tech Sector companies
and will opening up the development of critical govt sectors offer an
incentive to create broad based technologies?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rgds.
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