<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>. . . they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long</div><div><br></div><div>This is an insult.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br> </div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 16 June, 2011 11:22:54<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: 24! Your dead in the water<br></font><br>Robert, it's not belittling or insulting when I say that there are people in Kenya who are not on this list who do amazing things - 'make a mark in society' you called it, right? If anything, it's a compliment. <br>
<br>Yes, I'm over 24. Definitely. Also thankfully. <br><br>Andrea <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2011 09:54, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Andrea</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop trying to belittle the rest of us.</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
<br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as neither you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you and I are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology based innovation is concerned.</div>
<div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of age that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50 year old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the term Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth is a factor of
age, period.</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
Regards</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi ni nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent , so </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">what's</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> your beef with me?"</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> </font></div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert Yawe</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div>
<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Andrea Bohnstedt <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water<br></font><br>Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably just don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long. <br>
<br>Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a bit difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers. And not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs and no employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to create would be a bit pointless, no? <br>
<br>Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy :) <br><br>Andrea <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi,</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
<br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">Please do not
get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">1. Become an </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">angel</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US $100,000/-, do the ROI)</font></div>
<div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share)</div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">nieces who are under 16 years to take up development (</font><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px;line-height:17px;">Mark Zuckerberg</span><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"> was writing serious code he had taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL & Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which
is why I continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.</font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">FYI:</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px;line-height:17px;">Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires. <br>
<br>Rather than becoming dependable citizens <b><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.clevelcrossing.com/lcjssearchresults.php?d=1550" style="color:rgb(0, 158, 224);text-decoration:none;">looking for jobs</a></b>, people like Mark Zuckerberg believe in becoming
deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of Copernicus.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px;line-height:17px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px;line-height:17px;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/">http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/</a></span></div>
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Regards</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">PS. Do </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br>
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<br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Andrea Bohnstedt <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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</font><br>Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ookolloh@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ookolloh@gmail.com">ookolloh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">Re radical ideas and kids. <div><br></div><div>Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ory</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of June and not the 16th.<br>
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On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:suraj@surajshah.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:suraj@surajshah.co.ke">suraj@surajshah.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> I would like to attend. ?Thanks<br>
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> On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Listers,<br>
>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on the<br>
>> 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to have<br>
>> at list 10 of you.<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300<br>
From: "Rad!" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com">conradakunga@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India<br>
on IT<br>
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I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with<br>
creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the<br>
iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook<br>
Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to<br>
have slowed him down any.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
> The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify<br>
a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it<br>
not the money.<br>
> Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun<br>
and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed.<br>
> Regards<br>
> PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability<br>
to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along<br>
forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or<br>
business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high<br>
school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train<br>
has left.<br>
><br>
> Robert Yawe<br>
> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> Kenya<br>
><br>
> Tel: <a rel="nofollow">+254722511225</a>, <a rel="nofollow">+254202010696</a><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Phares Kariuki <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
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> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on<br>
IT<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop<br>
and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.<br>
>> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows<br>
great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one<br>
of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"<br>
><br>
> What's the first step?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> With Regards,<br>
><br>
> Phares Kariuki<br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:49:28 +0300<br>
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> Listers,<br>
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