Too much cyber-bullying these days!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Francis Hook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com">francis.hook@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">????<br>
<div class="im"><br>
"KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable<br>
behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times<br>
and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize,<br>
respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or<br>
qualifications."<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">On 16/06/2011, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Andrea<br>
><br>
> I can insult you in ways you will never understand or appreciate but half of<br>
> those on the list will, so please lets keep to the issues at hand and stop<br>
> trying to belittle the rest of us.<br>
><br>
> You are definitely over 24 years of age so please accept that fact as<br>
> neither<br>
> you no I can do anything about it. In my post I clearly indicted that you<br>
> and I<br>
> are beyond the "use by date" in as far as developing a radical technology<br>
> based<br>
> innovation is concerned.<br>
><br>
> We might make brilliant parents and grand parents, we have the experience of<br>
> age<br>
> that no one can take away from us but we must acknowledge the facts on the<br>
> ground and stop behaving like the Chama Cha Mapinduzi Youth Wing whose 50<br>
> year<br>
> old chairman kept holding onto the post by changing the definition of the<br>
> term<br>
> Youth. Nyerere finally put the issue to rest as I would like to here, youth<br>
> is<br>
> a factor of age, period.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> PS. A wise Matatu Makanga retort "hunilipii kodi kwa hivio tabu yako namimi<br>
> ni<br>
> nini?" a translation for your sake Andrea "You do not pay my rent ,<br>
> so what's your beef with me?"<br>
> Robert Yawe<br>
> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> Kenya<br>
><br>
><br>
> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" value="+254722511225">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" value="+254202010696">+254202010696</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
> To: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 12:03:32<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water<br>
><br>
> Robert, there are plenty of people above the age of 24 who make a mark in<br>
> society, not just in ICT, but in many other sectors as well - they probably<br>
> just<br>
> don't have time to chitchat on an ICT mailing list all day long.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Financiers, coaches, managers are an important part of the system. It's a<br>
> bit<br>
> difficult to get anything off the ground without managers and financiers.<br>
> And<br>
> not everyone is a good entrepreneur. Plus a country full of entrepreneurs<br>
> and no<br>
> employees to be employed in those fantastic companies they are going to<br>
> create<br>
> would be a bit pointless, no?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Happy day everyone. Gotta scoot and do some work to keep my employees busy<br>
> :)<br>
><br>
> Andrea<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 15 June 2011 11:16, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark<br>
>> in<br>
>>society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>1. Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US<br>
>><br>
>>$100,000/-, do the ROI)<br>
>>2. Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share)<br>
>>3. Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under<br>
>> 16<br>
>>years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he<br>
>> had<br>
>>taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from<br>
>> AOL<br>
>>& Microsoft when he was in high school, - what is your 9 year old doing?)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political<br>
>>revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys",<br>
>> coaches,<br>
>>managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is<br>
>> why I<br>
>>continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail<br>
>> mail.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>FYI:<br>
>>Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates,<br>
>> Microsoft<br>
>>owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These<br>
>> guys<br>
>>keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in<br>
>> companies<br>
>>owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark<br>
>><br>
>>Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and<br>
>> possess<br>
>>the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark<br>
>> Zuckerberg is<br>
>>sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the<br>
>> tenets<br>
>>of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college,<br>
>> study<br>
>>as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to<br>
>>become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark<br>
>><br>
>>Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something<br>
>> that has<br>
>>always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of<br>
>>Copernicus.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><a href="http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/" target="_blank">http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Regards<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>PS. Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but<br>
>> be<br>
>>re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.<br>
>><br>
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
>>Kenya<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" value="+254722511225">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" value="+254202010696">+254202010696</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
>>To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13<br>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48<br>
>><br>
>>Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <<a href="mailto:ookolloh@gmail.com">ookolloh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>Re radical ideas and kids.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child,<br>
>>> Ushahidi<br>
>>>was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the<br>
>>> organization<br>
>>>behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently<br>
>>><br>
>>>joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>Ory<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <<a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>> 1. Re: mhealth breakfast (<a href="mailto:david.simbiri@lixnet.net">david.simbiri@lixnet.net</a>)<br>
>>>> 2. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (Gakiria)<br>
>>>> 3. Re: Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT (Rad!)<br>
>>>> 4. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (james ratemo)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Message: 1<br>
>>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000<br>
>>>>From: "<a href="mailto:david.simbiri@lixnet.net">david.simbiri@lixnet.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:david.simbiri@lixnet.net">david.simbiri@lixnet.net</a>><br>
>>>>To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast<br>
>>>>Message-ID:<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I confirm my attendance.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>----------<br>
>>>>Sent from my Nokia Phone<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>------Original message------<br>
>>>>From: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00<br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Listers,<br>
>>>>My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the<br>
>>>> 15th of<br>
>>>>June and not the 16th.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Regards<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Ndemo.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>-----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>From: "Harry Delano" <<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a href="http://jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">jambo.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
>>>>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46<br>
>>>>To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
>>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on<br>
>>>> IT<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>_______________________________________________<br>
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>>>><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br>
>>>> for<br>
>>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>> regulation.<br>
>>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in<br>
>>>> support of<br>
>>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>> online<br>
>>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share<br>
>>>><br>
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>>>> spam, do<br>
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>>>><br>
>>>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br>
>>>> for<br>
>>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>> regulation.<br>
>>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in<br>
>>>> support of<br>
>>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>> online<br>
>>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not<br>
>>>> spam, do<br>
>>>>not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Message: 2<br>
>>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300<br>
>>>>From: Gakiria <<a href="mailto:gakiria@gmail.com">gakiria@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>To: "<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services<br>
>>>>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>confirmed, will attend<br>
>>>>Andrew<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <<a href="mailto:suraj@surajshah.co.ke">suraj@surajshah.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> I would like to attend. ?Thanks<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Suraj Shah<br>
>>>>> Corporate Affairs Manager<br>
>>>>> Intel<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Listers,<br>
>>>>>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena<br>
>>>>>> on<br>
>>the<br>
>>>>>> 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted<br>
>>>>>> to<br>
>>>>have<br>
>>>>>> at list 10 of you.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to<br>
>>>>>> you<br>
>>>>>> directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Ndemo.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>>> From: "Harry Delano" <<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a href="http://jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">jambo.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46<br>
>>>>>> To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>>> Reply-To: <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
>>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India<br>
>>>>>> on<br>
> IT<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder<br>
>>>>>> platform<br>
> for<br>
>>>>>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>regulation.<br>
>>>>>> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in<br>
>>>support<br>
>>>>>> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>online<br>
>>>>>> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br>
>>>>>> share<br>
>>>>>> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do<br>
>>>>>> not<br>
>>>spam,<br>
>>>>>> do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder<br>
>>>>>> platform<br>
> for<br>
>>>>>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>regulation.<br>
>>>>>> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in<br>
>>>support<br>
>>>>>> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>online<br>
>>>>>> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br>
>>>>>> share<br>
>>>>>> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do<br>
>>>>>> not<br>
>>>spam,<br>
>>>>>> do not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br>
>>>>> for<br>
>>>>>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>>> regulation.<br>
>>>>>The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in<br>
>>>>> support of<br>
>>>>>the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>>> online<br>
>>>>>that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br>
>>>>> share<br>
>>>>>knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not<br>
>>>>> spam, do<br>
>>>>>not market your wares or qualifications.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>--<br>
>>>>Gakiria Andrew<br>
>>>>Coordinator<br>
>>>>Kenya eLearning Centre<br>
>>>>Nairobi, KENYA<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Message: 3<br>
>>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300<br>
>>>>From: "Rad!" <<a href="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com">conradakunga@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India<br>
>>>> on IT<br>
>>>>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTims%2BFqrUcG%2BPmu%2BGmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>>I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with<br>
>>>>creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>>iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook<br>
>>>>Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>>have slowed him down any.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>>>>wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi<br>
>>>>> The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then<br>
>>>>> identify<br>
>>>>a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of<br>
>>>> it<br>
>>>>not the money.<br>
>>>>> Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun<br>
>>>>and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed.<br>
>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>> PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your<br>
>>>>> ability<br>
>>>>to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along<br>
>>>>forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or<br>
>>>>business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high<br>
>>>>school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other<br>
>>>> train<br>
>>>>has left.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Robert Yawe<br>
>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
>>>>> Kenya<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B254722511225" value="+254722511225">+254722511225</a>, <a href="tel:%2B254202010696" value="+254202010696">+254202010696</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> From: Phares Kariuki <<a href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> To: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18<br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India<br>
>>>>> on<br>
>>>>IT<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>>>>wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk<br>
>>>>>> shop<br>
>>>>and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.<br>
>>>>>> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows<br>
>>>>great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in<br>
>>>> one<br>
>>>>of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> What's the first step?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> With Regards,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Phares Kariuki<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> | T: <a href="tel:%2B254%20720%20406%20093" value="+254720406093">+254 720 406 093</a> | E: <a href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com">pkariuki@gmail.com</a> | Twitter: kaboro |<br>
>>>>> Skype:<br>
>>>>kariukiphares | B: <a href="http://www.kaboro.com/" target="_blank">http://www.kaboro.com/</a> |<br>
>>>>><br>
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>>>>Message: 4<br>
>>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:49:28 +0300<br>
>>>>From: james ratemo <<a href="mailto:jratemo@gmail.com">jratemo@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>To: <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>
>>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services<br>
>>>>Message-ID: <BANLkTi=<a href="mailto:vTGD9vkg65V2jW0UqkTvVkkSfmw@mail.gmail.com">vTGD9vkg65V2jW0UqkTvVkkSfmw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I would like to attend...please let the one involved in organizing<br>
>>>> confirm<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:00 AM, <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Listers,<br>
>>>>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena<br>
>>>>> on<br>
>>>>> the 16th morning starting at the 7am. The sponsor has graciously<br>
>>>>> accepted<br>
>>>>> to have at list 10 of you.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Please let us have confirmations on the list. They will respond to you<br>
>>>>> directly. I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Ndemo.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>> From: "Harry Delano" <<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=<a href="http://jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">jambo.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46<br>
>>>>> To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
>>>>> Reply-To: <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>
>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India<br>
>>>>> on IT<br>
>>>>><br>
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> development.<br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br>
>>>>> for<br>
>>>>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br>
>>>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT<br>
>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and<br>
> development.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br>
>>>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and<br>
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>>>><br>
>>>>--<br>
>>>>James Ratemo<br>
>>>>Online Sub-editor/ICT reporter<br>
>>>>Nation Media Group,<br>
>>>>P.O Box 409010-00100,<br>
>>>>Nairobi<br>
>>>>Cell Phone: 0724960649 OR 0731960649<br>
>>>>Email: <a href="mailto:jratemo@ke.nationmedia.com">jratemo@ke.nationmedia.com</a> <<a href="mailto:Emaili-jratemo@standardmedia.co.ke">Emaili-jratemo@standardmedia.co.ke</a>> or<br>
>>>><a href="mailto:ratemoj@hotmail.com">ratemoj@hotmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jamrats2001@yahoo.com">jamrats2001@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>>>Website:<a href="http://www.jamesratemo.wordpress.com" target="_blank">www.jamesratemo.wordpress.com</a> <<a href="http://www.ictcradle.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ictcradle.com/</a>>.<br>
>>>>Twitter accounts: <a href="http://twitter.com/kenyacurrent" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/kenyacurrent</a> or<br>
>>>><a href="http://twitter.com/jamesratemo" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jamesratemo</a><br>
>>>>Skype account:ratemoj<br>
>>>>My facebook account: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/Rats.the.menace" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Rats.the.menace</a><br>
>>>><br>
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