we are talking about 2 types of termination rates (a) national and (b) international, both which affect end-user tariffs.<br><br>my humble view is that cck as a responsible organ of government must be responsive to the effect its regulations have on the economy, such as stability and long-term sustainability. i cannot think of any reasonable person who stands to gain from the consequences of collapse of the telecom sector.<br>
<br>neither is it right for cck to remain fixated on driving termination rates to the floor because for me mtr is neither the sole determinant of end-user rates, nor the lone beacon for the state of industry competition.<br>
<br>i support the pragmatic government direction that aims at restoring sanity in this sector.<br><br>my two cents worth<br><br>On 9 June 2011 23:01, Edwin Onchari <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eonchari@lynxbits.com">eonchari@lynxbits.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi all,<br>
<br>
In the interest of those of us that might not be privy to the principles of<br>
the "underlying economic policy" that would dictate such intervention and to<br>
avoid uninformed conclusions, what are the tenets of it (in simple<br>
English).....also in the spirit of responsible journalism, was this<br>
appropriately referenced/sited in the article?<br>
<br>
Edwin<br>
<br>
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To: Edwin<br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] State House moves in to quell mobile price wars<br>
<br>
Stephen,<br>
Even if termination rates goes to Zero, international call rates out of<br>
Kenya remains high.<br>
<br>
It is important to know that this was not a knee jerk reaction as many may<br>
think. The debate has been in public domain and indeed there were similar<br>
initiatives that were not challenged. I think we applying double standards<br>
in this matter. I will therefore not comment on this issue any further.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
<br>
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From: "Stephen Mutoro" <<a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a>><br>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:34:03<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
Reply-To: <a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a><br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] State House moves in to quell mobile price wars<br>
<br>
Thanks Dktr. My personal respect for you and your views notwithstanding, I<br>
beg to differ not necessarily on the suitability of the decision but the<br>
approach/process. Nothing wrong for interested parties to intervene within<br>
contexts. But lets avoid setting bad and costly precedents - through our<br>
obsession as Kenyans with shortcuts or quick fixes and selfish deals<br>
whenever it suits us.<br>
<br>
A brief story. I arrived in the country very early today. For the 5 days or<br>
so I've been away in Dakar, Senegal, my roaming bill came to about 7K not<br>
necessarily that I was making too many or long calls but the best I cld get<br>
is Sh59 per min for receiving calls and Sh108 for calling per min.<br>
Retrieving data/emails was even higher.<br>
<br>
In short, the gains Kenyans have made on ICT and telcos sector (through you<br>
and others) are too dear to be wished/eroded away. Cofek and I request to be<br>
understood in this perspective. Lets accord CCK the "independence" and have<br>
it as practically as possible stir away from partisan influences. Good<br>
night!<br>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:14:03<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] State House moves in to quell mobile price wars<br>
<br>
Stephen,<br>
I wish you first asked what transpired before you make such remarks. CCK<br>
gets its policy direction from the Ministry of Information and<br>
Communications. The policy emanates from the political manifesto of the<br>
ruling party. In our current case, the harmonized manifesto. Here we<br>
agreed to a free market economy. This means that any market interventions<br>
must reflect the underlying economic policy.<br>
<br>
When we had accellerated price decline in Uganda, Congo and other<br>
countries, they resulted to a floor price, in other words price control.<br>
Had we taken that direction, we shall have undermined the underlying<br>
economic policy. Instead we temporarily suspended the glide path to study<br>
the wider impact on the economy. The CCK board arrived at that solution.<br>
<br>
In my view you are misunderstanding the independence rule. Central Banks<br>
world over are independent but their decisions are based on the policy<br>
direction of the country. Even if you were to head this country you will<br>
find that it is your policies that would govern the country since the buck<br>
stops with the leadership. It will make no sense if we have several<br>
independent decision makers.<br>
<br>
Different papers reported different stories but nobody has sought<br>
clarification or offer a solution under the prevailing circumstances.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> Indeed a desperate move and one that has neither moral nor legal basis.<br>
> What a mockery of a futile attempt of by-passing regulatory regime. It is<br>
> CCK that will be the "loser" if it cowardly allows a clear abuse of<br>
> Section 5(b) of Info and Comms Act. Cofek will be seeking clarification<br>
> from concerned parties. We must never allow State House to conduct sector<br>
> regulatory matters, whether pro or anti-consumer. Rgds<br>
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