As far as CCK is concerned, why are there 6 out of 10 from the MT. Kenya region? I am saying Mr. Kenya region because I do not ethnic groups they are. Only 3 directors count for the rest of the country.<br><br>And why are 30% of the board need to be such highly paid and overworked civil servants as PSs? What additional input can the PS in the ministry of Energy contribute to communication? I can understand the Treasury PS but 3 of them? Really?<br>
<br>Joe<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:37 AM, arap Kirui <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arapkirui@gmail.com">arapkirui@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I think the other very important thing we refuse to touch is ethnicity. I am not sure that the wider national figures released by Kibunjia do not inform this debate and the simmering sentiment, the law and all else aside.<br>
<br>
arap Kirui<br>
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Subject: �Re: [kictanet] [!! SPAM] Re: Poghisio Flouting The Law in The CCK Tussle-byDMakali<br>
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I must add my voice in this debate! A critical thing that is playing out<br>
irrespective of who is acting legally or not is the lack of professionalism<br>
in the way the boards and management relate to each other. This leads to a<br>
kind of a context that plays out in the public and which helps no one in<br>
particular but affects the industry. It is apparent there are sour grapes<br>
and each party is using different strategies and legal provisions/gaps to<br>
settle scores. I agree with one of the contributors that upholding good<br>
faith in all dealings is crucial. If involved parties feel that there are<br>
differences that need intervention by other stakeholders to resolve them,<br>
then let them involve them if the source of dispute has to do with real<br>
issues and not personal. Otherwise, then nothing will ever work so long as<br>
personality clashes take centre stage and not even the laws or the<br>
constitution will resolve. We must embrace the spirit of constitutionalism<br>
because even the law is an "ass" and legal interpretations will not always<br>
solve issues BUT, the law/legal provisions are important to offer guidance.<br>
Human beings us included will always try to wriggle and find those<br>
provisions that favour them. So in this particular case, whether the board<br>
or the minister is right is subject to who is interpreting what and their<br>
world view and at the end of the day, there is a stalemate.<br>
<br>
Jane<br>
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While at this subject, its a pity we are playing safe, leaders at key<br>
state organisations should come out boldly and state the challenges<br>
they are facing if any, it does us no good to be gossiping or<br>
listening to grapevine, I wonder why we don't invoke the law during<br>
the numerous cocktails we have, let's uphold good faith in all our<br>
dealings and stop playing cards under the table �as the late Hon.<br>
Wamalwa challenged the leaders.<br>
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> @ Leonard, my reasons for using names is that there are times when we<br>
> need leadership, I mentioned the Chair and the minister because they<br>
> have what it takes to resolve the current challenge, we all know that<br>
> there is the spirit and the letter of the law, good leadership<br>
> espouses both, I fully agree with Gitau but what is the use of the law<br>
> if we don't relate well as stakeholders?<br>
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>> We need the rule of law, not behind-the-scenes political comprises.<br>
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