It is not clear from your answer if Cofek is <b>actually willing</b> to work with ICT Consumers Association formed earlier.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Mutoro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Very good question. There are many ways of doing so if both sides
are interested. Too many issues to handle even for the two organizations. We are
open to suggestions. I wish you copied your question to the </span>ICT Consumer
Association of Kenya. <span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
kictanet-bounces+stephen=<a href="http://cofek.co.ke" target="_blank">cofek.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bstephen" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+stephen</a>=<a href="http://cofek.co.ke" target="_blank">cofek.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Eng. Wainaina Mungai<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 04, 2011 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke" target="_blank">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [!! SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Introducong Consumers Federation of
Kenya (Cofek) on Kictanet:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Exactly.�How does CoFeK plan to interact with the ICT
Consumer Association of Kenya?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Conrad Akunga <<a href="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com" target="_blank">conradakunga@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There was also ICT Consumer Association of Kenya that seems
also to be doing some work in this sector.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Can we harmonize all these
initiatives?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Francis Hook <<a href="mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com" target="_blank">francis.hook@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Curious to know which bodies come under this federation and,
while its not explicitly stated, does Cofek exclude/include ISPs/Data
Providers? � I believe over and above MNOs provision of data services,
there have been concerns with fixed providers.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4 April 2011 09:12, Stephen Mutoro <<a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke" target="_blank">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a>>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Dear Alice & Others:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Greetings from Cofek and I. We are very
grateful to have been invited on this forum. Clearly, we have a lot to learn
from you as we offer our counter views and lessons. Please allow us to make our
maiden submission here. Indeed, we must hasten to mention that at Cofek we are
keen to discuss <b>issues</b> and not personalities. We hope this forum will
live to this expectation. As a credible and umbrella federation of consumer
organizations, we are equally realistic � we are well aware that
sustainable consumer benefits are best reaped when the market is fair, just,
competitive and predictably stable. Bottom line, we hope we can agree to
disagree on certain matters without being personal!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From the foregoing, we are friends of all
service providers. This is because without any of them, the consumer is in
serious trouble. On telecommunications sector for instance, the Cofek Sector
Unit responsible is a �friend� of all MSPs (Yu, Orange, Airtel and
Safaricom and any other). We had the first meeting with MSPs on 25<sup>th</sup>
January and hope to host another one before end of April. We will, therefore,
be disappointed if the arguments posted on this forum appear to suggest that
perhaps one or other MSP is better than the other without credible supporting
evidence. Remember, they are all in business to make money. They wil apply
different formula and strategy to this end. Cofek has no problem with their
reasonable profits. Without regret, however, we are ever ready and willing to
take drastic action, including seeking legal redress, should any of them go
against Article 46 of the Constitution as well as </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Kenya Information and Communications Act
(2009).</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">�</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">It is for this reason
that Cofek�s first point of entry into the sector is with the quality and
performance of regulatory regimes, in this case the CCK. We are interested to
be assured that the CCK board of directors and management does not only comply
with the law but is one that can be relied upon to deliver against world
benchmarks. On occasions, we will be keen to discuss various issues �
such as the tariff structure and promotions, innovations, consumer IEC, possibility
of a 5<sup>th</sup> operator and why not?, MNP among others. In so doing, we
work closely with media houses for instance Cofek will be on KTN Business Live
discussing MNP at 2.00 pm today. In a nutshell, we are pleased to be on this
forum and wish each of you a great week ahead!</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Kind regards,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">�</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Stephen Mutoro</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Secretary General,
COFEK</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">------Original Message------</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From: alice@apc. org</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">To: <a href="mailto:stephen@cofek.co.ke" target="_blank">stephen@cofek.co.ke</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">ReplyTo: alice@apc. org</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Subject: Kenya ICT Action Network.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Sent: 2 Apr 2011 1:55 PM</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I read your opinion article featured on
standard newspaper April 1st and welcome your views and analysis. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I would like to invite you to join a multi-stakeholder
forum called KICTANet that discusses ICT policy and regulatory issues. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thank you</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Alice </span></p>
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