I concur Robert<br><br>The great revolutions that the world is gone through especially US and China were not done by entrepreneurs but by those governments - as is well documented Google from USC, Mozlla, IE, Netscape came from University of Illinois and Facebook Harvard. All these very successful technology products are partly owned by the US Fed Govt through the Universities <br>
<br>So I concur with Robert that we pray Dr Ndemo uses his good office to kickstart the data center revolution.<br><br>Manthi<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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This says a lot about the governments lip service on vision 2030, the setting up of special economic zones and jua kali sheds is so industrial revolution thinking.</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">With technology the entire country becomes an special economic zone whose only infrastructure requirements are data centres and high speed broadband (wired or otherwise) all of which are much cheaper to install
than 4 lane highways and 11,000 kilo volt power sub-</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">stations</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">, or could it be the issue of 10%.</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"></font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Kazi kwa vijani needs to look beyond the standard 8 drop out to the university graduate who already has the skills and is only looking for an enabling environment. �</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Dr. Ndemo,
I propose you call your counterpart in the Ministry of Industrialisation and which ever other ministry is involved in the jua kali shed project and insist to be given 1 shed in every constituency then take the cash equivalent and set-up a hosting and collocation centre. �</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">All it requires is 1000 square feet of space in your offices (digitise your files and move the physical ones to Kabartonjo). �From your offices get at least a 1 gigabit link to KIXP and as you are next to Oranges Telephone House which sits on a node of the Secom marine cable you can tap in for the international bandwidth.</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">The other link you require is to KeNET (</font><a href="http://www.kenet.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kenet.or.ke</a>)<span style="font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif;">, the education network hub, which I believe is currently asleep so that the location can be accessed across all universities. �This is critical as we know what happened when the developers of google and facebook went through when trying to host within their campuses.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif;"><br></span></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">If you leave the issue of hosting and collocation to market forces and private enterprise then our young developers and doomed to languish in poverty like our great artists. �This is the 1968 of technology time
to setup an ICDC and KNTC type entities for the technology industry which you can then float like safaricom and kenya power after the market has matured.</font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">From where I sit not even Safaricom or Airtel have the resources or willpower to salvage this situation.</font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">�</font></div>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert Yawe</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div>
<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, 29 March, 2011
17:57:58<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Local hosting - reiterated<br></font><br>Developers and Local Hosting providers have for long been involved in the "chicken before the egg"�situation�where hosting firms say that demand has to increase for prices to come down, they have to justify investment. Developers meanwhile want prices to come down before they host locally, with�some�of them barely having budgets.�
<div><br></div><div>At the same time, local hosting firms have to learn to offer world class cutting edge platforms and�interfaces�to their users if they are going to adopt them.�</div><div><br></div><div>At the same time, it aids when those providing this services go into technical details, like the type of databases offered, supported scripting languages rather than just tell us 2 databases, developers need that information.�</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rememeber there is tough competition from the likes of Amazon who have a robust cloud infrastructure which is free for low usage (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/" target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/</a>)</div>
<div><br></div><div>As a case study, a local developer has done a popular application , AroundMe (Nokia Ovi store -�<a rel="nofollow" href="http://store.ovi.com/content/103911#/content/103911/reviews" target="_blank">http://store.ovi.com/content/103911#/content/103911/reviews</a>) which has been downloaded more than 10,000 times and with 30,000 searches. The app uses the Google App Engine (<a rel="nofollow" href="https://appengine.google.com/" target="_blank">https://appengine.google.com/</a>)�cloud platform, also free to a certain usage . To now the app is still operating on the free limit (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://aroundmenow.appspot.com/" target="_blank">http://aroundmenow.appspot.com/</a>).�</div>
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