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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Dear Kictanet Members,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Tomorrow
is Day 6 and I welcome you to continue the debate that started on Friday (Day
5) as outlined in the original email below. Here is a summary
from the contributions so far. Grace Githaiga gave a very lengthy contribution
on various sections, in Section 7 (6) she said it is not clear whether
Commissioners will be in full employment but added that there has to be some
security of tenure to guard against political influence. In Section 8(b) and (e) </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">–</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"> on which involve gross misconduct and incompetence – she suggests it should
be dealt with through a 2/3 vote by the Commissioners.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">And in Section 10 on Remuneration she suggests it should not
be left solely to the Minister (aka Cabinet Secretary) but to be pegged to
existing Commissions. </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><span style=""><br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><span style=""></span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Muriuki’s concern with Section 11 is
the need for a clause to enable interested parties to access Minutes of
Commission meetings. However, Matunda wonders whether <span style=""> </span>this be covered under "access to
information" 'principle' in the new constitution. Muriuki further
emphasized that Section 11(3) should be clear that a quorum should constitute
at least 5 Commissioners and meetings must be held on Kenyan soil. In addition,
the Bill should be clear on the minimum number of meetings per annum.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"> He also commented on Section 12
(1) (b) basically arguing that a Commissioner does not have control over what
his/her family members do. He further emphasized that it is contradictory
especially considering Section 6(1) where are person cannot be a Commissioner
if:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">e) a family member has a direct or
indirect financial interest in the sector;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">f) business partner or associate
holds an office in or with, or is employed by, any person or bosy, whether
corporate or unincorporated, which has an interest contemplated in paragraph
(f)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Muriuki,<span style=""> </span>I SO AGREE with you that Section 12(1)b and
Section 6(1) e and f….especially f need serious rethinking and rewriting to
communicate effectively. The key here is ...”less can mean more”.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">May the debate on from Day 5 (Friday) continue tomorrow Day 6....….</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Best Wishes,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">Nyaki</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><br><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><br><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><br></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> Kicatnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2011 05:10<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">Dear Listers,</p>
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<b>DAY 5-6:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">The discussion today will flow over to Monday 21 Feb.
evening. Feel free to write over the weekend as well. It is drawn from p. 7-8
of the Draft Bill:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">SECTION 7: TERMS OF OFFICE</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">SECTION 8: REMOVAL FROM OFFICE</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">SECTION 10: REMUNERATION</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">SECTION 12: CONFLICT OF INTEREST</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">[Kindly show which Section you are discussing, it will help
with feedback and input to the main Report] </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>SECTION 7</b>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">This includes standard issues like length of term for the
Chair which is 5 years and 4 years for the Commissioners.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">7(4) and (5): The point here is that a Commissioner can
remain in Office at the expiry of his/her term until a successor appointed but
this should not exceed 45 days. The same Commissioner can be re-appointed for
one more term.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">(6) The point in this sub-section is that a Commissioner
serves in full-time capacity and not allowed to have any other employment</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>Question: What do you think particularly of
Section 7 (6) above? Your response to this has implications for 8 (1) g on
removal from the office you break this clause.</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>SECTION 8</b>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">There are 9 reasons for removal from Office and most are
standard but I would like you to discuss the following:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">8. (1) (e). Incompetence;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>Question: Do you think this should be qualified further
as it can be subject to abuse when so general? Or is it self-explanatory?</b> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>What about 8. (1)(h)</b>: A commissioner may be removed
from office on account of failure to disclose an interest in terms of section
12(2)(a) or voting or attendance at, or participation in, proceedings of the
Commission while having an interest contemplated in section 12 (1);</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>Question: Does this make perfect sense?</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>Do you think SECTION 12 on CONFLICT OF INTEREST
should come earlier eg. after No. 7 TERMS OF OFFICE and before NO. 8
REMOVAL FROM OFFICE? or should it be before No. 8.? or is it in the right
place?</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>SECTION 10</b>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">REMUNERATION: Basically this has been left to the Minister
with concurrence of the Minister of Finance.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>Question: Your thoughts on this</b>?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;"><b>SECTION 12</b>: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10pt; line-height: 17pt;">While I am in this section, can I comment that the Table of
Contents MUST synchronize with the main titles in the main body. For example
the TOC reads ‘Conflicting Interests’ and the main body is ‘Conflict of
Interest’….those can debatably be two different issues.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">So
we will discuss ‘CONFLICT OF INTEREST’:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">This
includes the standard issues but section needs some editing; however there are
two issues that may be open in discussion:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">12(1)(a)
A Commissioner may not vote at, attend or in any the manner participate in, any
meeting or hearing of the Commission, nor be present at the place were the
meeting is held if --</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">(b)
in relation to an application relating to a licence, he or she or his or her
family member is a director, member or business partner or associate of or has
an interest in the business of the applicant or of any person who made
representation in relation to the application; or……etc</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b>Question:
Imagine that this was a determining question in an Exam, asking you to simplify
this by first explaining what it means? Would you get the pass mark? Please
try.</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Sincerely,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Nyaki</p>
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