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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Cathy <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for sustaining the debate ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Section 11<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My concern is meetings of the ICCK . firstly, we need to get a
clause to make it possible for an interested party to have access to the meeting
minutes . it augers well with transparency and supports the independence of
the commission , secondly, section 11(3) is not good . how can those present
make a quorum. Without a <i><u>floor</u></i> one or two commissioners can
make a quorum and do a formal meeting while doing nyama choma in masai mara considering
that meetings can be held anywhere - in fact even outside kenya!!!. We need a
floor . Quorum should start from 5. These guys are full time employees and so
should be available . Meetings should be held in the republic of Kenya<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The minimum number of meetings per year should be specified -
lets put a floor --- the guys can go to bed after appointment . the old Act
has a floor --- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Section 12 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>12 (1) (b) is impossible to happen if the appointment of the
commissioner fulfilled 6 (1) (e) or (f) . it is either one or the other. However
if we assume that one was eligible to be a commissioner and gets appointed
and then a family member got an interest in the sector , what is the commissioner
supposed to do to sustain clause 6 (1) e or f? these two sections need a serious
rethink to polish it .the intent is good however<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>cheers <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Muriuki Mureithi <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Pristina;
color:red'>The happiest of people don't necessarily <br>
HAVE the best of everything; </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Pristina;color:red'>They
just MAKE the best of everything</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Catherine Adeya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2011 05:10<br>
<b>To:</b> mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] Day 5-6: Terms of Office, Removal from Office,
Remuneration and Conflict of Interest<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'>Dear Listers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'>Thank you for all of you who contributed to Day 4
discussions on SECTION 5: CONSTITUTION AND APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONERS TO
COMMISSION and SECTION 6: DISQUALIFICATION. In summary, Muriuki recommended
that the commissioners represent the supply side of the equation and there is a
need for the demand side of the equation which includes civil society,
professional societies etc. He also cautioned that while aspiring for suitable
qualifications, expertise and experience, it is possible to get
commissioners who have no interest in this sector. He suggested a
framework which includes a full disclosure as a condition of appointment and
resignation of active participation in the sector.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'>On the other hand, Walu argued that WHO gets appointed is
not as critical as the representative structure of the commissioners, which
needs to be redefined. This is in line with Matunda’s concern that there
is a need to consider something about need for diverse backgrounds of
commissioners with emphasis on technical business leadership, regulatory
policy, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'>Kay Kerubo does not like the idea of Appointees being
endorsed by Parliament as it could lead to political interference. She suggested
that the Chairperson should not have a longer term than other Commissioners,
that term should be 3 years in her view. Jane Thuo supported this view adding
that if the Chair has a longer term he/she will carry baggage to the next
Board. She emphasized the need for a gender balance rather than the old 30%.
Matunda suggested that <br>
Commissioners appointments should be staggered in such as way that there
are "overlaps" to ensure continuity; for instance we can have a
condition that not more than 50% of Commissioner terms can end at the same
time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-align:justify'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>Finally, Matunda said that the Cabinet secretary (not the
President) should make appointments on recommendation of PSC. This would be in
line with decentralization of power that has been at the core of the recently
promulgated constitution.<br>
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<b>DAY 5-6:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>The discussion today will flow over to Monday 21 Feb.
evening. Feel free to write over the weekend as well. It is drawn from p. 7-8
of the Draft Bill:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>SECTION 7: TERMS OF OFFICE<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>SECTION 8: REMOVAL FROM OFFICE<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>SECTION 10: REMUNERATION<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>SECTION 12: CONFLICT OF INTEREST<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>[Kindly show which Section you are discussing, it will help
with feedback and input to the main Report] <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>SECTION 7</b>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>This includes standard issues like length of term for the
Chair which is 5 years and 4 years for the Commissioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>7(4) and (5): The point here is that a Commissioner can
remain in Office at the expiry of his/her term until a successor appointed but
this should not exceed 45 days. The same Commissioner can be re-appointed for
one more term.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>(6) The point in this sub-section is that a Commissioner
serves in full-time capacity and not allowed to have any other employment<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>Question: What do you think particularly of
Section 7 (6) above? Your response to this has implications for 8 (1) g on
removal from the office you break this clause.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>SECTION 8</b>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>There are 9 reasons for removal from Office and most are
standard but I would like you to discuss the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>8. (1) (e). Incompetence;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>Question: Do you think this should be qualified further
as it can be subject to abuse when so general? Or is it self-explanatory?</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>What about 8. (1)(h)</b>: A commissioner may be removed
from office on account of failure to disclose an interest in terms of section
12(2)(a) or voting or attendance at, or participation in, proceedings of the
Commission while having an interest contemplated in section 12 (1);<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>Question: Does this make perfect sense?</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>Do you think SECTION 12 on CONFLICT OF INTEREST
should come earlier eg. after No. 7 TERMS OF OFFICE and before NO. 8
REMOVAL FROM OFFICE? or should it be before No. 8.? or is it in the right
place?</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>SECTION 10</b>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>REMUNERATION: Basically this has been left to the Minister
with concurrence of the Minister of Finance.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>Question: Your thoughts on this</b>?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'><b>SECTION 12</b>: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt;
line-height:17.0pt'>While I am in this section, can I comment that the Table of
Contents MUST synchronize with the main titles in the main body. For example
the TOC reads ‘Conflicting Interests’ and the main body is ‘Conflict of
Interest’….those can debatably be two different issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So
we will discuss ‘CONFLICT OF INTEREST’:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This
includes the standard issues but section needs some editing; however there are
two issues that may be open in discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>12(1)(a)
A Commissioner may not vote at, attend or in any the manner participate in, any
meeting or hearing of the Commission, nor be present at the place were the
meeting is held if --<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(b)
in relation to an application relating to a licence, he or she or his or her
family member is a director, member or business partner or associate of or has
an interest in the business of the applicant or of any person who made
representation in relation to the application; or……etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Question:
Imagine that this was a determining question in an Exam, asking you to simplify
this by first explaining what it means? Would you get the pass mark? Please
try.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Nyaki<o:p></o:p></p>
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