<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div>Thanks Muriuki,<br><br>Walu...I think this helps explain some differences between the old Act and this Bill. <br><br>Muriuki, I seek your guidance on what you refer to as the demand side of the equation be covered under Section 5 (3)b.ii which I have just written out in full for Walu in my response before this one of yours. There is a clause that "....or any other related expertise or qualifications"...or do you suggest that they must be explicitly mentioned?<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Nyaki<br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> muriuki mureithi
<mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 17, 2011 1:35:13 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Day 3: FUNCTIONS OF THE COMMISSION<br></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Catherine </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> A major improvement of this bill is that it puts a
cap on the maximum number of the commissioners which was not the case on the ‘former
Act’ and of course a small number of commissioners which is
the norm world wide . it reduces cost at the top and ease of doing business .
The old Act actually sets a MINIMUM not MAXIMUM</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> It also removes government officers at the helm –
remember the ‘ former Act’ had four PS’s . Certainly
there is no way we could talk about independence from government when half are government
officers </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Another improvement is that some of the government officers
in the former Act carried double or triple huts – as regulator, represents
interest in government investments e.g. TKL, Safaricom as in the case of MOIC
and Treasury. To my understanding this is no more . This takes the
ICCK a notch higher in the independence plan </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">However by carrying all the baggage ( duties and powers) of
the ‘old Act’ some quest for independence will be lost e.g. </span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The minister/secretary can craft ict policy and by publishing
in the gazette , the ICCK must implement it ( old act section 6). You will
notice in the ‘old act’ there is no need for consultation. Current
policy had consultation due to personal commitment of the former PS
Eng Rege. I hasten to add that I support a framework for the government to
publish policy guidelines but should reflect wide consensus</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A host of many others aspect in the old Act must be
approved by minister with the catch phrase – by the time being
responsible for communication, broadcasting, finance , security etc etc .
Actually the Minister appears in no less than 28 times</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The old act also allows the minister to make regulations </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By carrying over the functions imposed to the old Commission
we carry the same constraints </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Appointment of the commissioners is good but some
issues need to be addressed </span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">All the commissioners represent the supply side of the equation ,
we need the demand side of the equation as well , where is civil society,
professional societies etc for example. This has been scrapped from the ‘old
Act’ sec 7(2). Incidentally postal expertise has also been scrapped
and seems no longer required </span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">While aspiring to get ‘ </span><span style="font-family: "serif";">suitable qualifications, expertise and experience’
persons to be commissioners, it is inconceivable that we can get such people who
have no direct or indirect interest in this sector either themselves,
family or friends. Consider another framework – full disclosure as
a condition of appointment and resignation in active participation in the
sector.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">cheers </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Muriuki Mureithi </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it
from themselves. Sir james m barrie<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">
kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>waudo siganga<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 February 2011 11:24<br>
<b>To:</b> mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Day 3: FUNCTIONS OF THE COMMISSION</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">Walu
- I also thought on the same lines as you have.</span></p>
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Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:55 -0800, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "sans-serif";">Waudo,<br>
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now your point brings in a question that I have always wondered - the thin
line between the ICT Regulator (cck) and the Policy Agency (Communication
Secretariate). Before Eng. Kairuki says the clarity is there in the
Communications Acts, I find that the practice may not be as clear cut...<br>
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On paper, the Communication Secretariate is mandated to develop, publish and
represent govt policy on all ICT matters -which it does. However, with
the Regulator strongly representing the Kenya position at most of the ITU
meetings one is tempted to wonder why not raise the profile of the
Secretariate to expound on policy at the international fora? Am talking
voting power at ITU going to the Secretariate rather than residing with the
Regulator...i know its a tall order given that the structure at ITU expects
the regulator to call the shots but from a governance point of view, policies
should be matters for the policy department (Communication Sec) and not the
implementing dept (CCK)<br>
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I know i could be getting into murky waters here, but I think the new Bill
should clearly define the thin line between policy creation vs policy
application - IN PRACTICE, the old bill does this in theory. Does it?<br>
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walu.<br>
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--- On <b>Wed, 2/16/11, waudo siganga <i><emailsignet@mailcan.com></i></b>
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From: waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 3: FUNCTIONS OF THE COMMISSION<br>
To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:02 AM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">I
am having a problem putting together some aspects of this bill. For example
one of the functions of the current CCK is dealing with the ITU.
Now the ITU is an Inter-Governmental Organization under the UN. This means
that the CCK works with the ITU on behalf of the Kenya Government. Decisions
in the ITU are taken by voting with each country having one vote. CCK has to
vote according to the instructions it receives from the Government of Kenya.
How do we tie this aspect with the earlier requirement that the new
commission "is independent of control by government".</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">And
just for better understanding, what is the role of the National
Communications Secretariat? The CCK has been working not only with the ITU
but with other entities like ICANN and the IGF to FORMULATE policy while its
role should have been limited to IMPLEMENTING policy. Will the new ICCK
continue policy formulation function?</span></p>
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Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:42 -0800, "Catherine Adeya"
<elizaslider@yahoo.com> wrote:</span></p>
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Hi Listers,<br>
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Today we move to SECTION 4 of the Draft Bill discussing the FUNCTIONS OF THE
COMMISSION </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
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<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">In my view the key
issues for discussion are:</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
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<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">a) That the
Commission must perform duties imposed upon the former Commission by or under
the Act?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"> </span></p>
<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">b) The Commission
may exercise and continue the exercise of the powers conferred upon the
former Commission by or under the Act;</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
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<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">Question</span></b><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">: What is your take
on this? In addition, is there any major difference between the two issues?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
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<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">Note</span></b><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">: The other issues
have to do with the Commission acting subject to Chapter 4 of the
Constitution and subject to the Public Finance Management Act, 1999 (please
refer to the Bill for further emphasis). </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">If you have
anything else on the other 2 days please send but with the right subject
header so we do not confuse issues for those collating comments.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
<p class="me03405yiv65907062me66770msonormal" style="margin-bottom: 16.2pt;"><span style="font-size: 21pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">Best Regards, Nyaki</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"></span></p>
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