<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt">I will find out and get back to you.<br><br>Thanks Nyaki<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 17, 2011 3:08:07 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Day 4: Query<br></font><br>
Catherine - Do we have someone who was involved in the drafting<br>available on this list to answer questions? I have a sense that we are<br>proceeding without the questions being resolved.<br>Waudo<br><br>On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:35 -0800, "k.k. ombati" <<a ymailto="mailto:kaykerubo@gmail.com" href="mailto:kaykerubo@gmail.com">kaykerubo@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br>> hi,<br>> im not sure i like the idea of the appointees being endorsed by<br>> parliament,it could lead to much political intreference and could be<br>> used to hinder some people from being appointed.<br>> i also dont see why the chair should have a longer term than other<br>> members and the term should be reduced to 3 years,with a maximum of<br>> two terms served.<br>> also gazettment of vacancies and appointments should be done by the<br>> cabinet secretary.<br>> section6(1)(f) has a typo and it shld refer to(i) not (f<br>> sections 6(1)(i) and (f) are
unrealistic;what does financial interest<br>> encompass?does it mean if my sister works for safaricom,i am<br>> diqualified from board membership.<br>> <br>> On 2/17/11, Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > Nyaki,<br>> ><br>> > plse update me. in the old act had defined a representative nature of the<br>> > board/commissioners along the lines of someone from say Broadcast, Consumer,<br>> > Technical, Legal, Govt Reps, etc. Does this new bill take care of this?<br>> ><br>> > I think more than WHO gets appointed, we need to redefine representative<br>> > structure of the commissioners. Otherwise you might get all the seven<br>> > coming from a technical background (disaster ;-).<br>> ><br>> > The other bit would be define limited terms for the commissioners (2terms),<br>> > and
possibly have parliament endorse the nominated Chairperson (even though<br>> > the current stalement in parliament does not seem to support this view, but<br>> > assume an american type of congress approval method here).<br>> ><br>> > walu.<br>> ><br>> > --- On Thu, 2/17/11, Catherine Adeya <<a ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > From: Catherine Adeya <<a ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>><br>> > Subject: [kictanet] Day 4: Consitutions and Appointment of Commissioners to<br>> > the Commission<br>> > To: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> > Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 4:30 AM<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Listers,<br>> > As we continue our debate on the draft 'Independent Communications<br>> > Commission of Kenya Billl 2010' we recall how yesterday, we opened the<br>> > discussion<br>> > on the functions of the Commission where the key issue is that the ICCK will<br>> > have to perform duties imposed on it by the former Commission. We did not<br>> > have<br>> > many contributions and I should not give my viewpoint too much but in this<br>> > case<br>> > indulge me. I believe the word ‘imposed’ must go.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > The other contribution was by Waudo<br>> > mainly concerned with whether the ICCK will continue in its policy<br>> >
formulation<br>> > function or whether it will be clear that it is meant to implement policy.<br>> > He argued that since ICCK will take over whatever CCK has been doing<br>> > then how does one deal with the aspect of being “independent of control by<br>> > government” when in essence CCK votes at the ITU based on instructions from<br>> > the<br>> > Government of Kenya. If you want to continue anything on the Day 3<br>> > discussions<br>> > kindly do so under the relevant header…contributions are still welcome.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Today is Day 4 and we move to:<br>> ><br>> > SECTION 5: CONSTITUTION AND APPOINTMENT OF<br>> > COMMISSIONERS TO THE COMMISSION<br>> ><br>> > SECTION 6: DISQUALIFICATION<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > SECTION<br>> > 5:<br>> ><br>> > The Commission consists of
7<br>> > Commissioners appointed by the President on the recommendation of the Public<br>> > Service Commission (PSC).<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Process:<br>> ><br>> > 1. Minister consults with PSC<br>> > within 7 days of commencement of the Act ad declares vacancies and request<br>> > for<br>> > applications.<br>> ><br>> > 2. Application to be<br>> > forwarded to PSC within 14 days of notice (by a qualified person or<br>> > person/organization/group proposing qualified person)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > 3. PSC interviews and shortlists<br>> > 2 people qualified for Chairperson and 9 people for members<br>> ><br>> > 4. Within 7 days President<br>> > appoints Chairperson and members.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Question:<br>> > Is this process fluid
enough?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Key issue I would also like<br>> > you to consider:<br>> ><br>> > pg. 5, Section 5 (No. 3)<br>> > about the type of person to be appointed, in a nutshell:<br>> ><br>> > - Committed to fairness,<br>> > freedom of expression, etc.<br>> ><br>> > - Represents a large<br>> > cross-section of the population<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I am particularly interested<br>> > in No. 3 (ii) [which requires serious editing anyway, I have done a little<br>> > of<br>> > it below though still wordy]:<br>> ><br>> > (ii) Possess suitable<br>> > qualifications, expertise and experience in the fields of, amongst others,<br>> > broadcasting, telecommunications, law, media and economics; and any other<br>> > related expertise.<br>> ><br>> ><br>>
><br>> ><br>> > Question: What are your thoughts on the kind of<br>> > Commissioners needed? Do you think there should be a little more here about<br>> > the<br>> > calibre of a Chairperson? Where do gender issues come in? Or rather gender<br>> > balance as this is still a problem in many of these appointments in Kenya.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > SECTION<br>> > 6:<br>> ><br>> > Disqualification: There is a<br>> > whole list of reasons on pg. 6, Section 6 on people who cannot be appointed<br>> > to<br>> > the commission. It includes:<br>> ><br>> > - is not a Citizen of the<br>> > Republic (I think this should be simply Kenya)<br>> ><br>> > - is a public servant or<br>> > holder of any other remunerated position under the State<br>> ><br>> > - is an employee or employee<br>> > of any party,
movement..etc.<br>> ><br>> > - has been convicted of any<br>> > criminal charges…<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Question:<br>> > Read through and see if they are satisfactory? One that is not clear and in<br>> > my<br>> > view needs serious editing is:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > 6. (1) f. A person may not be appointed as a<br>> > Commissioner if he or she or his or her<br>> > business partner or associate holds an office in or with, or is employed<br>> > by, any person or body, whether corporate or unincorporated, which has an<br>> > interest<br>> > contemplated in paragraph (f):<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > HELP! I am supposed to be a<br>> > moderator, but who understands this or can make it simpler but clearer. It<br>> > definitely needs to change.<br>>
> Best Regards,<br>> > Nyaki<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > kictanet mailing list<br>> > <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><span>> > <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br>> ><br>> > This message was sent to: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"
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