<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Listers,<br><br>You are way too quiet. This is a very important Bill and if we do not get adequate contributions, you cannot blame the Ministry if they take it forward with the contributions from very few voices. I know you are out there as I have seen you come out on many occasions. We move to Day 3 discussions and I sincerely hope and pray that I hear from more of you.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Nyaki<br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Mwololo Tim <timwololo@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, February 15, 2011 4:47:24 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Day 2: The Establishment of Independent Commuincations Commission of Kenya<br></font><br>
<font size="4">Dear all,<br><br>I like (4). <br><br>I also like Siganga's change in (5). I would however change it further to read:<br><br>(5) The Commission must function without any interference from political, commercial or other partisan interests.<br>
<br>Regards<br><br>tim</font><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:09 PM, waudo siganga <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p align="left">"is independent of control by government, political or commercial interests;<br>
In my mind this leaves a loophole by limiting the scope of those who can interfere with independence to only 3 groups. How about, for example, civil society groups or other groups that do not fit in the three. How about the military, etc. I suggest there should be a "catch-all" in addition to the 3 groups so that the reading is like "<font face="Garamond">is independent of control by government, political, commercial or any other partisan interests;".</font>
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<p align="left">This also fits in with subsction 3(4) where the word "impartial" (derived from "partisan") is introduced. In the same vein sub-section 3(5) should be expanded in scope. Strangely there is no consistency in this subsection because "government" is missing and the scope is reduced to only political and commercial. Subsection 3(5) scope should include government as well as the catch-all.</p>
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<div>Kind Regards,</div>
<div>Waudo</div>
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<div>On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:23 -0800, "Catherine Adeya" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Listers,<br>
We are on Day 2 of our discussions. Thank you for your thoughts on Day 1. It is evident that there are mixed reactions on the Object of the Bill. We will ensure those responsible keep this in mind and find a suitable middle ground, if any. Some feel that the Object is unnecessary and misleading. Others believe it is okay but what will be critical is the implementation.<br>
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So today flows from the issues on day one as Part II of the Bill begins with:</span></span>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">SECTION 3: THE 'ESTABLISHMENT OF INDEPENDENT COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION OF KENYA' (Commission or ICCK hereafter, my addition):</span></span> <br>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Key issues from this section are:</span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;"><br>
</span></span> <span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">4) The Commission is independent, subject only to the Constitution and the law, and must be impartial and must perform its functions without fear, favour or prejudice.</span></span>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Question</span></span><span style="font-size: 21pt;">: Does this communicate to you?</span></span>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">5) The Commission must function without any political or commercial interference</span></span>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Question</span></span><span style="font-size: 21pt;">: Again does this communicate effectively? Should the issue of politics be separated from the commercial one?</span><span style="font-size: 16pt;"> </span><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Or can we do away with 5 as the issue should be well covered in 4? </span></span>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">I hope for a more vibrant discussion today as this bill is very critical.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Enjoy,</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 21pt;">Nyaki<br>
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