<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Its a good point that there needs to be early notification on these meetings but lets not forget that Kenya is not Nairobi what about those who are situated away from the City does it mean that they must all relocate to Nairobi if they are to benefit from this functions?<br><br></div><div>"The digital divide widens right in front of us" <br> </div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 13 January, 2011 17:06:36<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants<br></font><br>Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular emphasis on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth KNOW when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized and the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such organizations to encourage increased participation?<br>
<br>Crystal<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith Adera <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke">eadera@idrc.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said….to transform Africa…we need leaders who “hate money”!!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Your point very well taken!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Edith</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;"> kictanet-bounces+eadera=<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://idrc.or.ke">idrc.or.ke</a>@<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera">kictanet-bounces+eadera</a>=<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://idrc.or.ke">idrc.or.ke</a>@<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>robert yawe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Edith Adera</span></p><div class="im"><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br></div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
</div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need to be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame of <span><span style="font-size:10pt;">Zuckerberg without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network to better appreciate what it took to create facebook.</span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the expected financial gain. When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the streets of <i><b><span style="font-style:normal;">Porto Alegre </span></b></i><i><span style="font-style:normal;">he was not thinking of the billions he will earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the sport.</span></i></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-style:normal;">Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop, not imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook then not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a path to your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then we might as well forget about development.</span></i></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-style:normal;">I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with no return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws of Kenya. When they came to me what they needed was computers, office space and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is something that money can not buy. </span></i></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:10pt;">For the icing on the cake, there is another developer who currently runs the site <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.live.mystocks.co.ke">www.live.mystocks.co.ke</a> which is the leading stock market information portal developed the initial site <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.mystocks.co.ke">www.mystocks.co.ke</a> from the challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers in Kenya. Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money, partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service provider will soon be blazing a bath to the door.</span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-style:normal;">Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders of the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one wrong move by the giant and all will be over.</span></i></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-style:normal;">Regards</span></i></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">
<span style="">Robert Yawe</span><br><span style="">KAY System Technologies Ltd</span><br><span style="">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</span><br>
<span style="">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</span><br><span style="">Kenya</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;"><br>The problem is not having a framework. Watch Social Network, how Zuckerberg created facebook. On his own, he could not have gone far. We need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be honest to one another. We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities is where you come from. We mus subordinate our individual interest and pride for the greater benefits that change society.<br>
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