<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Agosta,</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Tafathali tuwache ku pakana mafuta, there are 37 million Kenyans all of who need to benefit from state resources. All that our friends at the KICT Board needed to do is have the function broadcast on one of the terrestrial channels and my former classmates in Chepalungu can benefit from this functions paid for by their parents taxes.</div><div
style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">The remote participants could then send in there questions and contributions via calling in, email, sms or voice mail which would cost a fraction of the cost of travelling to Nairobi.</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">We are supposed to be solution providers not reincarnations of Maria Antoinette and if we do become her do not blame the masses for beheading us.</div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"
size="3">"Think like a </font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">capitalist</font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> but act like a socialist"</font></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Regards<br> </div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert Yawe</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"
size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br><div style="color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 13 January, 2011 18:02:12<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Standing
on the shoulders of giants<br></font><br>Crystal.<br><br>All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't<br>see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that.<br><br>If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :)<br><br>On 1/13/11, Crystal Watley Kigoni <<a ymailto="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org" href="mailto:crystal@voicesofafrica.org">crystal@voicesofafrica.org</a>> wrote:<br>> Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular emphasis<br>> on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth KNOW<br>> when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized and<br>> the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist<br>> undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such<br>> organizations to encourage increased participation?<br>><br>> Crystal<br>><br>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith
Adera <<a ymailto="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke" href="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke">eadera@idrc.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said….to transform<br>>> Africa…we need leaders who “hate money”!!<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Your point very well taken!<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Edith<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=<a ymailto="mailto:idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<br>>> kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@<br>>> lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe<br>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM<br>>> *To:* Edith Adera<br>>><br>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Standing on the
shoulders of giants<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Hi,<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need<br>>> to<br>>> be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame of<br>>> Zuckerberg<br>>> without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network to<br>>> better appreciate what it took to create facebook.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and<br>>> enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the expected<br>>> financial gain. When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the<br>>> streets of *Porto Alegre **he was not thinking of the billions he will<br>>> earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the
sport.*<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop, not<br>>> imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook then<br>>> not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a path<br>>> to<br>>> your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then we<br>>> might as well forget about development.*<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with no<br>>> return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws<br>>> of<br>>> Kenya. When they came to me what they needed was computers, office space<br>>> and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is something<br>>> that money can not buy. *<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> For the icing on
the cake, there is another developer who currently runs<br><span>>> the site <a target="_blank" href="http://www.live.mystocks.co.ke">www.live.mystocks.co.ke</a> which is the leading stock market</span><br><span>>> information portal developed the initial site <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mystocks.co.ke">www.mystocks.co.ke</a> from the</span><br>>> challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers in<br>>> Kenya. Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money,<br>>> partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants<br>>> shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service provider<br>>> will soon be blazing a bath to the door.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a<br>>> never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders
of<br>>> the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one wrong<br>>> move by the giant and all will be over.*<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *Regards*<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Robert Yawe<br>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>>> Kenya<br>>><br>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>><br>>> *From:* "<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>> *To:* <a ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a
ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>> *Sent:* Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03<br>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of<br>>> giants<br>>><br>>> The problem is not having a framework. Watch Social Network, how<br>>> Zuckerberg created facebook. On his own, he could not have gone far. We<br>>> need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be<br>>> honest<br>>> to one another. We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities<br>>> is<br>>> where you come from. We mus subordinate our individual interest and pride<br>>> for the greater benefits that change society.<br>>><br>>> Ndemo.<br>>><br>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>>><br>>> -----Original
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