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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437210120-07122010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Quite true, Wals.., Telcos/ISPs still abit lethargic and have
other priority areas at the moment. Perhaps this </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437210120-07122010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>doesn't really quite seem </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=437210120-07122010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>an urgency as it
should.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437210120-07122010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437210120-07122010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Walubengo J<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 06, 2010 8:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] [i-network] Internet IP Addresses
running out?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>McTim,<BR><BR>True that we are unlikely to have IPv6 ONLY
services soon. But it is also true that this could be the ONLY (business)
reason to get African ISPs/Telcos to adopt IPv6 networks. The idea that
one futuristic day, their customers will one day wake up and find that
they cannot access some IPv6 only services hosted overseas... and then
their customers will migrate to Telcos/ISPs that are IPv6 ready (i.e. can
provide the access to IPv6 only services).<BR><BR>In Africa we find
ourselves in a retrogressive "benefit" in that our IPv4 uptake is so slow
that it could take us another 10-15yrs to exhaust - meaning we can
comfortably afford another 8-10years without actually being FORCED to use
the new generation IPv6 networks. By that time, the rest of the world
would have had 10+ solid years of IPv6 technology experience and we shall
as usual be trying to play
catchup...<BR><BR>walu.<BR> <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 12/5/10, McTim
<I><dogwallah@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [i-network]
Internet IP Addresses running out?<BR>To: "Walubengo J"
<jwalu@yahoo.com>, "KICTAnet KICTAnet"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><BR>Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010,
5:58 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Walu, it is highly unlikely that we will see v6
only services anytime<BR>soon. There is no business case to run v6 only,
since most folk will<BR>be dualstacked going forward. In any case, here
in £frica, we will<BR>have a much longer time before our RIR exhaustion
date due to our low<BR>v4 burn rate. Rgds, mctim<BR><BR>On 12/5/10,
Walubengo J <<A href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com"
ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Am glad that Uganda has picked this up. Indeed the current IPv4 numbers
are<BR>> so depleted that estimates show that the last bunch (slash
/8s of IPv4)<BR>> numbers from IANA (or ICANN) will be distributed
some time in Q1, 2011.<BR>><BR>> You can check this some of these
Statistics on the AfriNIC or other sites<BR>> below:<BR>> <A
href="http://www.afrinic.net/statistics"
target=_blank>http://www.afrinic.net/statistics</A><BR>> <A
href="http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/"
target=_blank>http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/</A><BR>><BR>>
@Ronald,<BR>> Yes we have no reason to panic in as far as what to do
next is concerned<BR>> i.e. adopt IPv6 the next generation internet
protocol. BUT we have EVERY<BR>> REASON to worry because the adoption
in Africa is extremely poor. What these<BR>> means is that as the
developed economies adopt IPv6, at time will come when<BR>> they may
opt to run IPv6 ONLY services and then African Users will begin
to<BR>> wonder why they are unable to access services (e.g. youtube,
cnn.com,<BR>> twitter etc)<BR>><BR>> @ Wire,<BR>> IPv4
depletion and assosciated challenges are as real as u and me. This
is<BR>> no Y2k hype - even though I trust that the Y2k hype did help
stimulate some<BR>> action that historians are left to judge whether
that indeed is what saved<BR>> the world ;-)<BR>><BR>>
walu.<BR>><BR>><BR>> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Ronald Kato <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=katoronald@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:katoronald@gmail.com">katoronald@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> From: Ronald Kato <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=katoronald@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:katoronald@gmail.com">katoronald@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: [i-network] Internet IP Addresses running out?<BR>> To:
"I-Network Uganda" <<A href="/mc/compose?to=i-network@dgroups.org"
ymailto="mailto:i-network@dgroups.org">i-network@dgroups.org</A>><BR>>
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 1:44 PM<BR>><BR>> Yes it it is
true that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted so fast but steps<BR>>
are being taken to embrace IPv6 and this is through emerging
technologies<BR>> being able to support IPv6. Right from new new
laptops and other network<BR>> devices to new versions of
applications and operating systems, they are all<BR>> now built to
support IPv6.<BR>><BR>> It is up to the ISP,government and all
relevant bodies to inform the public<BR>> about the need to adopt
IPv6. Many are still are still unaware about the<BR>> existence of
IPv6 let alone how it is used and assigned.<BR>><BR>> Lastly, with
IPv4 to IPv6 tunneling, we will have both addressing schemes<BR>>
able to communicate with one another.<BR>><BR>> Ronald, you
shouldn't worry as steps have already been taken to cover the<BR>>
IPv4 depletion.<BR>><BR>> R<BR>> Ronald<BR>><BR>> On Sun,
Dec 5, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Fred Bbaale <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=bbaale@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:bbaale@gmail.com">bbaale@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> James,<BR>><BR>> Augment yr reasoning. It
would be self defeating for you to just wish<BR>><BR>> away the
problem.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Fred.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 12/5/10, James Wire <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=lunghabo@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:lunghabo@gmail.com">lunghabo@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>>
Ronald<BR>><BR>>><BR>><BR>>> I consider that FUD (Fear
Uncertainty and Doubt). It is the same scare<BR>><BR>>> tactics
that were used by large IT corporates to make money when
the<BR>><BR>>> countdown to the year 2000 started in the last
decade. Alot was blown<BR>><BR>>> out of proportion and when
the Y2k arrived, everything passed incident<BR>><BR>>> free. I
am sure Eng Elisha who has the head of the Ugandan Y2k
task<BR>><BR>>> force can agree with me on
this.<BR>><BR>>><BR>><BR>>>
Wire<BR>><BR>>><BR>><BR>>><BR>><BR>>> On Sun,
2010-12-05 at 07:41 +0100, Ronald Wejuli
wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>><BR>>>> Hi
Folks<BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>> ARIN has stated
that Internet IP addresses are at critical levels.
The<BR>><BR>>>> numbers are shockingly low and ARIN has
stated that there is only<BR>><BR>>>> 2.73% left out of the
millions of IP addresses currently in
use.<BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html"
target=_blank>http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html</A><BR>><BR>>>>
<A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion"
target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion</A><BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>>
With so little IPv4 address space left in the global free pool,
ARIN<BR>><BR>>>> continues to emphasize the need for all
Internet stakeholders to adopt<BR>><BR>>>> the next
generation of Internet Protocol, IPv6. However, with
slow<BR>><BR>>>> IPv6 adoption rates amongst ISPs and
private industries, we may run<BR>><BR>>>> into a serious
problem next year if the remaining IP addresses
are<BR>><BR>>>>
depleted.<BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>>
RW<BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>><BR>><BR>>>>
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