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shem.ochuodho<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> J.R. Kirongothi <kirongothi@kasneb.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Elijah Liech <onyango.liech@gmail.com>; charles gathii <cgathii@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Internet Users List <ke-internetusers@bdix.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 4 November, 2010 10:32:11<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ke-internetusers] Professionalizing the IT field<br></font><br>There has to be a first step and in this case, Alex, please take up Liech Onyango's challenge as the first step. How about bringing all these institutions under one umbrella to make one
strong front?<br><br>Capt(rtd) Jessie R. Kirongothi<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Elijah Liech" <<a ymailto="mailto:onyango.liech@gmail.com" href="mailto:onyango.liech@gmail.com">onyango.liech@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "charles gathii" <<a ymailto="mailto:cgathii@gmail.com" href="mailto:cgathii@gmail.com">cgathii@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "Internet Users List" <<a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:35 AM<br>Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Professionalizing the IT field<br><br><br>> Hi All,<br>> I wouldn't mind working with someone on this, we seem to have many<br>> ideas that never materialize. Can we at least make this a reality.<br>> Alex I believe has shown initiative on this, can he get all the<br>> stakeholders on board to see how to actualize this, if we all think<br>> it's a good
idea.<br>> <br>> On 11/4/10, charles gathii <<a ymailto="mailto:cgathii@gmail.com" href="mailto:cgathii@gmail.com">cgathii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> I agree with you Alex that in the last 20 years the institutions that should<br>>> have managed the ICT in Kenya failed. I have supported Captain with the need<br>>> to revive ITSA. But we should also not forget that Computer Society of Kenya<br>>> still exists and also Software Developers Association of Kenya is still<br>>> there and many others. So to answer Liech Onyango the registration of new<br>>> entities is not the answer. The answer lies by democratizing the already<br>>> existing institutions Like Computer Society of Kenya and ITSA and modernize<br>>> them to reflect and represent "we the people". I wonder what goes on in the<br>>> ICT professional minds when we see the Law Society of Kenya holding<br>>> elections so their
members can represent the body in powerful Government<br>>> Committees.<br>>> <br>>> It is this failure to have a vision and leadership that made people like<br>>> Alex feel the Vacuum with this forum and thanks Alex for taking up this<br>>> major role all by himself. Now the ICT professionals look for solutions to<br>>> PS and ICT Board for Governance issues related to the ICT professional<br>>> instead of having to issues with issues at the professional level then<br>>> approach the Government for answers. Is it too late to collect the<br>>> situation?<br>>> <br>>> Charles Gathii<br>>> <br>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Alex Gakuru <<a ymailto="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com" href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com">gakuru@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>>> Captain,<br>>>> <br>>>> I think the *real* problem has been too many *entities* purporting
to be<br>>>> "the" institution representing " we the people" until it became<br>>>> confusingly<br>>>> similar who really "the people" are? kuchanglia roho safi... asante,,,<br>>>> <br>>>> Alex<br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, J.R. Kirongothi<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:kirongothi@kasneb.or.ke" href="mailto:kirongothi@kasneb.or.ke">kirongothi@kasneb.or.ke</a>>wrote:<br>>>> <br>>>>> Hi all,<br>>>>> <br>>>>> This is a very good idea. However, every now and then somebody brings it<br>>>>> up and then a long silence. ITSA (INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY STANDARDS<br>>>>> ASSOCIATION) has been in existence since 1992 when it was founded by the<br>>>>> late Dr. Onunga and others. How about empowering it by enlisting as<br>>>>>
members,<br>>>>> review the TORs and establish a self regulatory profession?<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> Regards<br>>>>> Capt(rtd) J.R. Kirongothi<br>>>>> <br>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elijah Liech" <<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:onyango.liech@gmail.com" href="mailto:onyango.liech@gmail.com">onyango.liech@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> To: <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>>>>> Cc: "Internet Users List" <<a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a>><br>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:40 PM<br>>>>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Professionalizing the IT field<br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> Hi
all,<br>>>>>> Is someone out there thinking of a professional body to vet ICT<br>>>>>> professionals. Why can't we have an association for ICT<br>>>>>> professionals...that way we can have a standard way of judging who is<br>>>>>> a professional in this field. This can also provide guidance to<br>>>>>> institutions on the content they need to equip their students with.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> --<br>>>>>> --<br>>>>>> Kind Regards<br>>>>>> Liech Onyango<br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> ke-internetusers mailing list<br>>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a><br>>>>>> <a href="http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers"
target="_blank">http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>> <br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> ke-internetusers mailing list<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers" target="_blank">http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers</a><br>>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> --<br>>>> regards,<br>>>> <br>>>> Alex Gakuru<br>>>> <a href="http://www.mwenyeji.com" target="_blank">http://www.mwenyeji.com</a><br>>>> Hosting, surprise yourself!<br>>>> <br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>
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